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Re: [Yaesu] Anyone using MK-V with Alpha 89?

To: <w2pky@optonline.net>, "'Pat Lees'" <pclees@charter.net>
Subject: Re: [Yaesu] Anyone using MK-V with Alpha 89?
From: "Robert Carroll" <w2wg@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 14:18:47 -0400
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There was a similar problem in the 1000 MP I had.  As mentioned here it was
a problem on mike keying.  I used it with an Alpha 89, Alpha 86, and an
AL1500 and managed to trip all of them when keying the mike.  The
solution--sort of--was to set the MP max power out (via menu) to 50W max.
There was still some overshoot on keying the mike, but not enough to trip an
amp.  I had a very early MP and had thought Yaesu cleared up the problem in
later runs (there was a fix for the problem documented by Yaesu).  But you
may want to try setting the MKV to a lwer limit by menu if there is such an
item on the MKV.

73
Bob W2WG

-----Original Message-----
From: yaesu-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:yaesu-bounces@contesting.com] On
Behalf Of w2pky@optonline.net
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 1:23 PM
To: Pat Lees
Cc: <Yaesu@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Yaesu] Anyone using MK-V with Alpha 89?

The Mk V has alc action in the IF stages that has a slow attack so there is
a possibility of spikes especially when the mike is keyed with push to talk.
I blew out an Ameritron solid state amp with my MK V mysteriously. The fix
is to lower the IF gain on each band so that there is just enough gain in
the IF stages to drive the finals to the desired output. The down side of
this is that the speech processor will not provide super punch on the audio;
if you like contest audio.
 
>From W8JI website:
 
Transmit Gain Menus
The FT-1000 
MK V  has hidden transmit gain menus. They are accessed by pushing and
holding FAST and LOCK while turning the POWER switch on. Both of my MK V's
and every MK V serviced here has had the TX IF gain set too high. This
causes first character clicks on CW and spits and splatter on SSB.  Here is
how to correct the IF gain to prevent ALC clipping on leading edges of CW
and voice: 
Press and hold FAST and LOCK before and during initial POWER on. 
Press FAST and 
ENT at the same time. You are now in the MENU's and the display should say
"0-1 GrPI-cH". 
Turn the 
VRF/MEM CH counter-clockwise to 9-2. The display should say "t iF - GA in"
This is the transmit IF gain menu. 
Turn the SUB 
VFO knob clockwise one position to  " t iF - 018". This is the 1.8MHz
transmit IF gain. 
Press the 
ALC/COMP meter selector until the bar graph says "ALC".  Set RF PWR knob to
full power. 
With the radio on 
CW and a 50 ohm dummy load connected, close the key and adjust the MAIN
VFO-A knob until the ALC display is about 75-85% of full scale on the
illuminated bar marked "ALC". 
Press the next band button (3.5), make sure the radio is still  on 
CW, and turn the SUB VFO-B knob clockwise one band to "t iF - 035". 
Again adjust MAIN 
VFO-A until ALC is at 75-85% of full scale. 
Repeat this process through all bands. 
Most radios I have tested require a setting of 2 to 4 on TX IF gain, with 3
being the most common setting. 
This change will reduce 
SSB bandwidth and distortion. It will also reduce keyclicks and annoying
thumps on the leading edge of each Morse character. 
 
Good luck;
Bill
W2
PKY
 
 


----- Original Message -----
From: Pat Lees 
Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009 7:32 am
Subject: Re: [Yaesu] Anyone using MK-V with Alpha 89?
To: Robert Pack 
Cc: "" 

> Bob
> 
> In the menu system set the max rf output for the mark v for 75 
> watts 
> that may stop the amp from tripping. Your probably getting a 
> spike of 
> high out put when it is first keyed, see if lowering the max out 
> put 
> per the menu helps.
> 
> Pat
> 
> 
> On May 23, 2009, at 11:12 PM, "Robert Pack" wrote:
> 
> > I am having issues......not sure at this point if it is a 
> radio or 
> > amp issue but tomorrow I plan to connect this particular Alpha 
> 89 to 
> > a different radio (990 or 1000D).
> >
> > The radio mic gain seems to be ultra sensitive. At the 9 
> o'clock 
> > position the alc is just above the alc scale....move it just a 
> hair 
> > down and there is practically no alc deflection. I have 
> worked with 
> > compression as well and cannot seem to find a happy medium.
> >
> > The main problem is that when the alc is higher the amp is 
> faulting 
> > (Alpha amps will fault into standby for several reasons). It 
> seems 
> > to fault on certain voice peaks. I do not have alc from the 
> radio 
> > connected to the amp....tried it and nothing good came from it.
> >
> > I do not know if this is a radio issue or an amp issue but 
> just 
> > thought I would ask here in the event anyone else has had this 
> 
> > problem with this particular combination. Once I use a 
> different 
> > radio tomorrow I should be able to rule out one or the other.
> >
> > Any input is appreciated.
> >
> > 73,
> > Bob NX5M
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