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Re: [Amps] Maximum RF output in practical application: 4-250A

To: "W.F van Wyk" <zs6arf@telkomsa.net>, g3rzp@g3rzp.wanadoo.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Amps] Maximum RF output in practical application: 4-250A
From: Peter Chadwick <g3rzp@g3rzp.wanadoo.co.uk>
Reply-to: g3rzp@g3rzp.wanadoo.co.uk
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 10:06:29 +0200 (CEST)
List-post: <mailto:amps@contesting.com>
Wynand - and this applies generally, I think - 

>WE are already in ZS in a grey area of owning equipment capable of
more than 400W so the last think we need is the regulator having to enforce
the regulations<
We need to bear in mind the spurious emission requirements enshrined in Radio 
Regulations by ITU-R Rec. SM329. Interestingly, the FCC managed in their last 
update of Part 97 to implement the requirements incorrectly - they have it as 
requiring harmonics and spurious as -43dB, when it should be -43 plus 10log P, 
where P is the PEP, and for HF, not needing to exceed 50dB. Even then, they 
didn't make as much of a mess of things as the UK! The requirements for 
commercial equipment in the EU are less than the Radio Regs, but the UK licence 
says we have to abide by the RR! So you can legally buy a piece of kit that in 
theory you can't use. Fortunately, the enforcement in the UK is so minimal it 
doesn't have any effect........
However, we should aim for all harmonics to be at least 50dB down - not exactly 
too difficult - but high order IMPs might be. To meet the RR, emissions 
separated by 250% or more of the necessary bandwidth (say 2.5 times 2.7kHz)  
should be down 43+10log P, not exceeding 50dB for an HF tx. Nobody is sure 
whether the number for harmonics above 30MHz from a tx operating below 30MHz 
need to meet the 43+10logP not exceeding 70dB that applies to transmitters 
above 30MHz, or 43+10logP not exceeding 50dB. That applied to the Chairman of 
ITU Task Group TG1/5 where some of these numbers came from, too! On the other 
hand, if  in a 10kHz wide band starting 6.75kHz away, you aren't down 50dB, 
then you're  somewhat antisocial anyway.
Personally, I think that SM329 isn't very good: unfortunately, I wasn't at 
ITU-R TG1/3 where a lot of this started. Incidentally, that edition of  SM329 
was the first time there had ever been any limits on amateur transmitters, and 
because nobody thought about the effects of phase noise on narrow band 
transmitters, the limits at microwaves are ridiculous. This has been changed 
somewhat after the satellite people realised their tracking beacons are 
narrowband and thus have the same phase noise problems as amateurs! Ironically, 
the whole thing on spurious came about because of radio astronomy complaining 
about the spurious emissions from Iridium satellites in radio astronomy bands, 
and like Topsy, it 'just growed'. But an Administration enforcing the rules and 
complaining to other Administrations about their amateurs could cause us 
problems if we don't at least meet the RR spurious emission limits. The use of 
HF isn't going away, and there are a lot of people would like our ban
 ds....
Hopefully this isn't considered too far off the amps topic....
73
Peter, this week SM5/G3RZP
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