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Re: [RFI] HomePlug Experience?

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Subject: Re: [RFI] HomePlug Experience?
From: "Roger (K8RI)" <k8ri@rogerhalstead.com>
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 23:50:12 -0400
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On 10/6/2010 10:07 PM, Hare, Ed W1RFI wrote:
> It's hard to believe that it goes back over 10 years now, but the HomePlug 
> protocols do not use the Amateur bands, with the exception of the 5 MHz band, 
> which was allocated after the protocols were written.  I worked with HomePlug 
> engineers to do testing of the protocol with and without the notches.  
> HomePlug operates at 4-20 MHz. The HomePlug AV spec runs to 28 MHz and there 
> is a new HomePlug Gigabit spec that runs to 200 MHz.
>
> In the Gigabit spec, the 6- and 2-meter bands aren't filtered, but the levels 
> are about 30 dB lower than the HF operating level, so the noise levels are 
> correspondingly lower.  I think, however, that VHF interference is possible. 
> I just haven't had the time to go get a pair of the Gigabit modems and do 
> some measurements and testing. Repors are most welcome.
When I get my 4CX3000A7 version of the 2-meter amp in the handbook 
finished, maybe we can give it a real test.<:-))
I do know the CAT5e and CAT6 do radiate making the use of 2-meter HTs 
problematic within about 75 feet of the cable runs.

73

Roger (K8RI)
>
> But the spectral masks that HomePlug has applied to the Amateur bands is 
> successful. There are about 20 million HomePlug modems sold in the US to 
> date, and to date, ARRL has received zero reports of interference to the 
> Amateur bands traced to HomePlug products.
>
> See:
>
> http;//p1k.arrl.org/~ehare/bpl/HomePlug_ARRL.pdf
> .
>
>
> 73,
> Ed Hare, W1RFI
> ARRL Laboratory Manager
> 225 Main St
> Newington, CT 06111
> Tel: 860-594-0318
> Email: W1RFI@arrl.org
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: K1TTT [mailto:K1TTT@ARRL.NET]
> Sent: Fri 7/16/2010 7:29 AM
> To: rfi@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RFI] HomePlug Experience?
>
>
>
> I was afraid of that also when I put in a pv system.  The pv inverters talk
> to a monitoring box using 144khz plc which is very narrow band and no
> problem.  But because of the limited range the monitoring box had to be too
> far from my router, so the company sent me a pair of homeplug bridges.  They
> are supposed to be 4-20MHz, but I can't hear them.  Perhaps this is only
> because of the relatively low data rate and intermittent transfers actually
> used, but they don't seem to be a problem here.
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net<http://www.k1ttt.net/>
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ian White GM3SEK [mailto:gm3sek@ifwtech.co.uk]
>> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 07:09
>> To: rfi@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [RFI] HomePlug Experience?
>>
>> Eric Rosenberg wrote:
>>>   It looks like I'll need HomePlug to get from my router in the basement
>>> to the second floor, as no wireless devices penetrate this 70-year old
>>> plaster and lathing house.
>>>
>>> I presently have five Ethernet runs in the basement and two to the main
>>> floor above the shack.  They don't appear to be noisy or have an impact
>>> on my urban station.
>>>
>>> Do any of you have experience with HomePlug in/near the shack?
>>>
>>> I'd like to know about your experience!
>> http://www.ukqrm.org/
>>
>> Welcome to HF Hell.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> 73 from Ian GM3SEK
>> http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek
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