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Re: [RFI] Solar Panel RFI Video

To: Michael Aust <ava622@verizon.net>, radio.ns6q@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFI] Solar Panel RFI Video
From: "Dave Cole (NK7Z)" <dave@nk7z.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 05:42:05 -0700
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Hi Mike,
Thanks for the path to operations...

73s and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC)
ARRL Technical Specialist

On 08/13/2018 11:30 PM, Michael Aust wrote:
A Suggestion

Well Guys, I had RFI from a grow MJ Operation the took over a
15 months to end with Law Enforcement This RFI was S9 +20dB over 9

Instead of giving up on the Hobby, try the Remote SDR receivers
( You can transmit and work DX )

Had I known about this, it would have alleviated some Pain from
not operating while I was fighting the issue !!!!

Check out the
*KFS WebSDR***
Arizona SDR http://http://w7rna.dyndns-remote.com:18901
Northern Utah WebSDR - Server #1 http://websdr1.utahsdr.org:8901


-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Cole (NK7Z) <dave@nk7z.net>
To: Mike Kirkland <radio.ns6q@gmail.com>
Cc: Rfi List <rfi@contesting.com>
Sent: Mon, Aug 13, 2018 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: [RFI] Solar Panel RFI Video

Mike (NS6Q),

I well understand your frustration with your RFI issues... I am many
months out in not being able to use HF at all due to RFI. I am
frustrated beyond belief. Why? My hobby of 50 years is now at an end
until the FCC corrects the issue, I may not get Honor Roll as a result
of this, I am 65, my time is running short. The next sunspot peak may
be my last... You bet I am pissed, but I am also careful, and
thoughtful, and I want a solution that sticks, and more importantly is
good for the Amateur Community as a whole.

All of that said, I still believe we all need to take the slow careful,
thoughtful, non contentious, (maybe a little contentious), path...

If we are not careful, we very easily could create an environment in
which it takes a court order to get ANY assistance from ANY vendor for
any RFI issues, by simply uttering the words "Class Action".

Imagine if you were a vendor and you were working with the Amateur
Community and suddenly you get wind of a Class Action law suit. Or you
hear that a class action law suit is being discussed, and being
suggested on a mail list.

What would you as a vendor do? Why you would most likely instantly get
your lawyers involved, if for no other reason than out of fear for the
impending Class Action suit.

Once the lawyers are involved every single word a vendor utters, every
single deed a vendor performs, every single piece of paper a vendor
publishes would need vetting by those lawyers.

You would end up signing paperwork indicating that the RFI problem was
fixed, only to find later that you missed that spur on your favorite 6
meter DX frequency, and you find you have no recourse because you signed
that paper in order to get the free work done to suppress the RFI you
complained about. You get the picture...

You think it takes too long now, just wait until the vendors get jumpy
and thinking they need lawyers to even speak to us. That is not good
for the Amateur Community, not good at all!

The reality of this is we are lucky the FCC helps us at all. As I said
upthread, I am told that the VE land version of the FCC does not do a
thing for RFI, nothing, no enforcement of any kind when it comes to
Amateur reported RFI. Period. Nothing... Think about that-- you alone
vs. whoever with zero help, and zero leverage.

We are the little guy here, we have no big stick, we have nothing to
force our hand, the only ace we have is the ARRL, and they are not that
big compared to the lobbying entities for say broadcast, cell, and Solar.

So the only outcome of "Class Action" talk for Amateur Community will be
to muck up the entire process for every Amateur Operator out there,
ending any ongoing efforts to quench ongoing RFI issues, making
discussions not possible without the thought of legal action in the back
of the vendors mind. This is not the environment I want to live in RFI

We need to work with the vendors, not threaten them! If we don't we
will loose, and we will lose big!

Some of us are going to get hammered in this process, I am one of those
getting hammered and it seems you are as well. I am still willing to
take the slow course in this until it is fixed, I hope you will
reconsider your position.

73s and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC)
ARRL Technical Specialist
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