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Re: [RFI] Tesla's Response to Solar Panel RFI

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Subject: Re: [RFI] Tesla's Response to Solar Panel RFI
From: Dave Cole <dave@nk7z.net>
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 05:45:27 -0800
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Hi Tony,

Respectfully, I do not believe a Class Action lawsuit is the answer here.

The instant that the word "class action" is mentioned, every solar company on the Earth will stop assisting anyone that is currently being assisted in the US, and turn over all contact to a lawyer. All new assistance cases will be vectored through the lawyers. The next time someone complains they will be talking to a lawyer, not a technician.

My opinion is a class action lawsuit is a very dangerous precedent for Amateurs to set... Never forget, we are a hobby, they are a business with virtually infinite pockets compared to any of us.

While I do not know the "best" way to solve this, I don't think lawsuits are the way to go here. I would rather speak to a technician that at least understands the issues involved, than speak to a lawyer who's sole purpose in life is to make me go away, happy, or unhappy, at any cost to me.

If a Class Action lawsuit were to be created, I suspect that we would be a fairly small class, and that the chances of actually walking out of it with a better position than we have now would be pretty slim...

I doubt any smart lawyer would take our case on a contingency basis, given our size, vs., the size of Solar companies. There is a lot more money in suing Monsanto than Solar Edge. If we were to loose the case, imagine how helpful the solar companies would be afterwards...

Speak to your ARRL Directors and make RFI an issue for them... Do this every time you see them, not once, a year, but every time. Tell your Amateur friends to do the same... I believe that if this issue rises in priority for the ARRL, then more funds will be allocated to this issue by the ARRL.

God knows, it is a major issue for us. I am looking at an S7 noise level right now, due to grow lights, every day, for the last few years... I can not get them fixed faster than they pop up...

The FCC needs to be in this mix, in a way that is effective. I believe the ARRL is the correct path for this...

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 12/14/19 6:59 PM, Dan K2YWE wrote:
Perhaps a class action suit against Tesla might get some attention. Even
with a weak civil case the publicity might not be something they want.

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019, 9:37 PM Tony <dxdx@optonline.net> wrote:


I recently spoke with Tesla's Ashley Holmen about RFI emanating from a
neighbors Tesla-leased solar panel system. Tesla uses SolarEdge
components which are known to cause RFI.

I gave her all the details regarding the unresolved complaint filed with
SolarEdge in 2016 and politely explained FCC regulations regarding such

After reviewing the facts, she concluded that the interference is:

"Purely a civil dispute between neighbors" and that "both Tesla and
SolarEdge have done their due diligence".

Obviously a tactic to deflect so I kindly recommend that she contacts
the FCC. I also sent her a copy of the ARRL letter that was sent to
SolarEdge headquarters in 2017 which explains FCC regulations in some

It's unfortunate, but it looks like solar RFI is not going away anytime
soon. A friend who investigates RFI for the local power authority said
that many of the noise complaints they receive by hams turn out to be
caused by a neighbors newly installed solar panels.

He's found 5 new cases in 2019 and some of those installations involve
20 year contracts. That's a nightmare for hams because the responsible
parties can take years to resolve the problem, if at all.

I've posted Ms. Holmen's contact info below for those who have RFI
issues with systems leased by Tesla.

Tony -K2MO

Ashley Holmen  | Specialist, Executive Resolutions
6611 Las Vegas Blvd S., Suite 200 , Las Vegas, NV 89119 p. (650)
546-8110 | aholmen@tesla.com

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