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Re: [RFI] Any known to be good shielded HDMI cables?

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Subject: Re: [RFI] Any known to be good shielded HDMI cables?
From: Cortland Richmond <ka5s@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 09:52:42 -0400
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Some decades ago, in a Boston high rise apartment, I eliminatedmy brother'sTV interferenceproblem by addinga shieldover an existingcable, secured with hose clamps(https://www.harborfreight.com/Automotive-Hose-Clamp-Assortment-30-Pc-63753.html) to ensurecontact with connector metal.

Not trusting alumin[u]m foil, IIRC, I slit the shieldon a lengthof RG-8 coax and overlapped the knitted wires with electrical tape and sufficiencyof clamps.

He later tried to “fix me up” with the neighbor concerned, a once-GF, who, as he described her, was worth eight million dollars, and was a homicidal maniac... NO THANKS!


CortlandRichmond
KA5S


On 3/7/2020 19:06 PM, Bob Turner wrote:
Thanks for the comments.  I ordered one of the newer 8K cables and will give that a shot. 
 The description was bragging about how its "triple shielded", so maybe it's 
better.  I recall the ones I'm using were low cost, so probably not the best quality.  If 
the 8K cable does not do the trick, I may try using my laptop as the 2nd logging 
computer.  It will not have external HDMI cable.  I may also try the Jim Brown solution.

7 3  Bob
N2SCJ

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Subject: Re: [RFI] Any known to be good shielded HDMI cables?

On 3/4/2020 9:27 AM, Bob Turner wrote:
I've noticed that one of my computers emits RFI, but it's coming from the HDMI 
cable.   I notice it mostly on 70cm/445.200.    To a lesser extent, I've 
noticed it on the 6m SSB portion of band.   It's very weak on 6m, but it has 
made me loose a couple of 6m contacts.  If I pull cable from computer, but not 
TV/monitor noise is gone.  If computer is off, noise is also gone.

I figure I need a high quality shielded (properly) HDMI cable with toroids.  
Any known good ones?  Any other comments on this?
Because most equipment is built with a Pin One Problem (improper termination of 
a cable shield), shielded cable may not solve a problem like this. For 6M, #31 
clamp-on cores are the weapon of choice. Wind two 6-in diameter turns through a 
single 1-in i.d. clamp-on, or two turns through two 0.7 i.d. clamp-ons. For 
chokes, the number of turns is the number of times the cable passes through the 
core, so one turn outside the core. To see the impedance curves for these 
parts, go to this link, click on the part number for the core that fits your 
cable, and scroll down to the bottom of the data sheet for that part.

https://www.fair-rite.com/product-category/suppression-components/round-cable-snap-its/lower-broadband-frequencies-1-300-mhz-31-material-round-cable-snap-its/

For 2M, use multiple #31 clamp-ons, not wound, just clamped onto the cable. For 
440 MHz, the best Fair-Rite material is #61, also multiple clamp-ons along the 
cable. Fair-Rite part nr 0461164181 is 1/2-in i.d.
You can see the impedance curve here.

https://www.fair-rite.com/product/round-cable-snap-its-461164181/

These guidelines work for any kind of cable -- coax feeding TX or RX antennas, 
power cables, wired ethernet, cables between equipment. They also work for 
other noise sources.

For a long boom 6M Yagi I just had installed, I used five 2-turn chokes in series. 
The chokes are clamped to the bottom of the 1 1/2" boom using nested lengths of 
1 1/2-in and 2-in PVC conduit slit in half as spacers to the boom. Spacers are 
required so that the boom does not add stray capacitance to the chokes, which would 
move their resonance down in frequency, defeating the choke.

To clarify the spacers, the two lengths of PVC were first split using a table 
saw, then cut into suitable lengths (to fit between mounting hardware for the 
elements). The 1 1/2-in fits to the bottom of the boom, the 2-in nests under 
it, and the cores are then clamped to the boom.
Chokes are spaced from each other along the line so that there's at least 3-in 
between the turns of adjacent chokes.

73, Jim K9YC
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