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Re: [RFI] Noise from Generac Solar controllers?

To: David Eckhardt <davearea51a@gmail.com>, "Ken Bandy, KJ9B" <ken.kj9b@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Noise from Generac Solar controllers?
From: "Hare, Ed, W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.org>
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 22:07:52 +0000
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David,

Solar systems are digital devices that are classified as unintentional 
emitters. If they are marketed into residential environments, they must meet 
Part 15 B emissions limits. The only unintentional emitters that require 
certification that would create an entry in the database you looked at are 
scanning receivers, radar detectors and access BPL devices.  Although they CAN 
certify if there is no US resident willing to take responsibility under a 
Suppliers Declaration of Conformity, the vast majority of unintentional 
emitters are not certificated, so there will be no information on the FCC page 
containing test data.  An SDoC is essentially self-policed.  The rules do not 
require that test data on devices authorized under an SDoC be provided to the 
FCC.

If they are using a certificated WiFi or Zigbee device that is used intact, its 
certification would suffice, so there would not be a need for a separate entry 
in the database, no more than you would need to certificate your station if you 
bought and installed a certificated Bluetooth microphone in it.

Ed, W1RFI





-----Original Message-----
From: RFI <rfi-bounces+w1rfi=arrl.org@contesting.com> On Behalf Of David 
Eckhardt
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 4:55 PM
To: Ken Bandy, KJ9B <ken.kj9b@gmail.com>
Cc: Rfi List <rfi@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Noise from Generac Solar controllers?

IN further poking around on the FCC OET site under Generac, I can't find a 
single report filed on anything except wireless hardware.  I could not locate 
any complete systems which would include the panels, optimizers, other 
electronic switching devices, and simulated house wiring.  There is no evidence 
in the reports of any test results being filed with the FCC for the entire 
system.  All the "Max Freq '' frequencies listed on the response pages for a 
general search on Generac on the FCC OET pages reflect only above roughly 700 
MHz.  This tells me they are only filing for the intentional radiator, that 
being ZigBee or BlueTooth or some other protocol.  No complete *system test* is 
filed with FCC.  So, how can they claim compliance to even Part 15, Subpart C 
(Intentional radiator), Class C (industrial).  BTW:  Class C systems *do* 
require filing a test report with FCC.  There is none.

Dave - WØLEV

On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 5:06 AM Ken Bandy, KJ9B <ken.kj9b@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all.  I am contemplating having a “PowerHome Solar” power system 
> installed at my house, and am a little concerned about possible RF 
> noise generation from the system.  This system uses a Generac 
> controller.  Does anyone have any experience with a system using a 
> Generac controller?  I know early inverters were often RF noisy, but 
> I’m hoping that the later models have addressed noise generation.
>
> Any input is appreciated.
>
> 73,
> Ken, KJ9B
>
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