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Re: [RFI] Another Solar Panel Interference Case

To: Steve Dyer W1SRD <w1srd@yahoo.com>, "rfi@contesting.com" <rfi@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Another Solar Panel Interference Case
From: "Hare, Ed, W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.org>
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 18:12:48 +0000
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Yes, and 1.5 staff in the ARRL Lab have managed to be the focal point and do 
all the legwork for the cases that FCC does handle.  Without that, we'd be back 
to the pre-Riley days where FCC took no action whatsoever.

Ed



-----Original Message-----
From: RFI <rfi-bounces+w1rfi=arrl.org@contesting.com> On Behalf Of Steve Dyer 
W1SRD via RFI
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2022 1:55 PM
To: rfi@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RFI] Another Solar Panel Interference Case

Here is where the FCC is: 
https://www.tvtechnology.com/news/fcc-requests-budget-increase
The FCC has 1550 employees to manage all the spectrum issues for a country of 
330,000,000 citizens and a GDP of $21,000,000,000,000 (that's trillions).
Verizon alone has 130,000 employees. AT&T has 200,000.
For comparison, the FCC budget request is .05% of the defense budget request.
AT&T, Verizon, Charter and T-Mobile spent $107M in lobbying in 2020.
Perhaps most telling is this graph of FCC headcount 1983-2016. 
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-331835A1.pdf
I would say we are getting the level of service and outcomes we are paying for.
73,
Steve
W1SRD
> And the "official" reply from FCC to the impacted (RFI) coverage areas 
> for AM BC, "Increase your output power."  Sure.....Yea......That costs 
> the BCer money both for a new transmitter and continuing additional 
> fees to pay the electric bill.
>
> Yes, where is the FCC??
>
> Dave - WØLEV
>
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 3:24 PM EDWARDS, EDDIE J via RFI 
> <rfi@contesting.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I've only seen RFI mentioned in passing a few times in Radio World a 
>> broadcast magazine.  Doesn't seem to be an issue for broadcasters 
>> typically operating from 5,000 watts to 50,000 watts.
>>
>> If you think about it, it's not going to be much of an issue to local 
>> AM broadcasters who are using very strong local transmissions on 
>> ground wave to the receivers.  They may only lose fringe or rural 
>> area listeners, and only if those listeners get solar systems.  
>> Compare that to amateur radio operators running only 100 watts 
>> (typical) or less or rarely up to 1,500watts (max) transmitting 
>> through the ionosphere once or multiple times with 40-70db or more of 
>> loss and requiring highly sensitive receivers to pick up the weak signals.
>>
>> Most AM broadcasters won't be affected much at all with minimal loss 
>> of listeners.  But Amateur Radio will be.
>>
>> 73, de ed -K0iL
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RFI <rfi-bounces+eedwards=oppd.com@contesting.com> On Behalf Of 
>> bill steffey
>> Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 7:20 PM
>> To: Rfi List <rfi@contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [RFI] Another Solar Panel Interference Case
>>
>>
>> not having a BAD solar System, but a good one , I wonder what happens 
>> to receiving AM broadcasting ?????
>>
>> The AM broadcaster is a guy with a commercial license, a big 
>> investment AND THE PROFIT MOTIVE destroyed by interference.
>>
>>
>> Where o'  where did the FCC go????
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/4/2022 7:59 PM, Hare, Ed, W1RFI wrote:
>>> Get these reports to Steve Anderson, W1EMI@arrl.org, or rfi@arrl.org.
>> The more we bring these to the involved companies, the more they will 
>> do to try to improve future designs.
>>> Ed, W1RFI
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: RFI <rfi-bounces+w1rfi=arrl.org@contesting.com> On Behalf Of 
>>> Tony
>>> Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 7:44 PM
>>> To: Rfi List <rfi@contesting.com>
>>> Subject: [RFI] Another Solar Panel Interference Case
>>>
>>> All:
>>>
>>> Just received word from yet another ham who is experiencing solar 
>>> panel
>> RFI. Jeff, KD2SCR said he recently became a new ham and noticed that 
>> his home solar system was causing interference. The system is made by 
>> Solar Edge so no surprise there.
>>> I continue to hear from hams both here and abroad and there is no 
>>> doubt
>> in my mind that wide-spread solar panel interference will not only 
>> discourage new hams, but it will kill HF radio for the majority us -- 
>> especially those living in cities and suburbs where home solar 
>> saturates these areas.
>>> See Jeff's comments below.
>>>
>>> Tony -K2MO
>>>
>>> /Hello, //
>>> /
>>> /
>>> /
>>> /I just saw your videos on YT on interference from solar panels.
>>> notable from the neighbors solar city install with solar edge 
>>> equipment. I also have solar city with solar edge equipment and 3 
>>> weeks ago I got my General license and a new Yaesu FTDX10./ / / /The 
>>> only band I can transmit on is 40m. but not very far, like ct and va 
>>> and I'm in new jersey. Wondering if this was ever resolved as your 
>>> videos are 2 years old ?/ / / /73//thanks! Jeff KD2SCR. // /
>>>
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