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Re: Topband: 160M JT65HF

To: ZR <zr@jeremy.mv.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: 160M JT65HF
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 10:42:05 -0500
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On 1/1/2012 11:46 AM, ZR wrote:
> I still feel that DOMESTIC JT stay up around 1995 where they wont
> bother many.

That never stopped the SSB and AM boys for years ... they always
crowded right down to 1830 to talk across town because "that's where
their antennas worked".  The same thing is going to be true for the
JT65 users - they're not going to deal with two segments/retuning
antennas when they will work anything that comes along.

That's a fact of human nature.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 1/1/2012 11:46 AM, ZR wrote:
> I still feel that DOMESTIC JT stay up around 1995 where they wont bother
> many. They DO NOT belong in the DX window....period...unless they are
> working DX.
>
> Carl
> KM1H
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
> To: <topband@contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 11:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Topband: 160M JT65HF
>
>
>>
>> > Why not allocate digital mode above 1900 KHz?
>>
>> Because 1900 and up is not available in many areas of the world.
>> Although I'm not happy with TJ65 at 1838 - it's far better than
>> the over driven SSB, ESSB and AM that was the norm between 1830
>> and 1850 a few years ago (and still exists in some areas).
>>
>> Of course 600 Watt JT65 is nothing more than an alligator ...
>> it causes a tremendous amount of QRM from all the stations calling
>> that the high power station can't hear. When someone on the East
>> Coast (or Caribbean) hear a west coast station they don't bother to
>> think that the west coast (or Pacific) station is running 10-12 dB
>> more power than "normal."
>>
>> I don't think that anyone on 160 wants a JT65 "arms race" where 1500 W
>> outputs become normal. Not only will the perception of interference to
>> other operations become worse, the very strong signals will cause AGC
>> issues that will make copying the weaker signals much more difficult
>> for everybody.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>> On 12/31/2011 11:27 PM, n4is wrote:
>>> Happy New Year to all
>>>
>>> Jim, I'd love to have you as a neighbor. You know how to set up a
>>> station
>>> for best performance. I had experience with some stations in my area
>>> that
>>> wants to get long DX increasing power without knowing how to do it. I
>>> was
>>> able to hear the guy on several different frequencies and plenty of
>>> phase
>>> noise. Digital modes using AF can be very noisy if you don't know
>>> what you
>>> are doing.
>>> I have a DDR SDR and I can see the noise across the band on the water
>>> fall
>>> associated with the shift on the digital signal.
>>>
>>> Why not allocate digital mode above 1900 KHz?
>>>
>>> I know JT65, FSK441, etc. very well. I was very active on MS on 2 and 6m
>>> when we transitioned from fast speed cw to JT modes 10 years ago.
>>> Also I did
>>> EME CW and some JT65 on 144 MHz.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Jose Carlos
>>> N4IS
>>>
>>>
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