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Re: Topband: Radials over a stone wall

To: "N2TK, Tony" <tony.kaz@verizon.net>, "'topband'" <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Radials over a stone wall
From: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Reply-to: Tom W8JI <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:27:06 -0400
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Thanks for all the feedback on how to get the radials over/under/through the wall. After playing with this for the past few weeks I realize no way to go
under as test poundings on rods indicates the wall is too deep.

Tony,

Sometimes things get lost in all the traffic on debatable topics.

You do realize there is very little disadvantage to just going up over the wall and back down? It does not change the effective height any amount that means anything, nor does it cause a shadow. It adds a little series inductance, depending on the wavelength of the closed stub you form.

If you simply split the wire into two spread out wires far enough apart (a few wall thickness apart) you cut the small series inductance in half.

It is often too easy and too common to forget the difference between something we could ever notice even if we looked, and something that actually matters. Usually as long as we don't do something wrong, many of the things long discussions make sound worrisome are really insignificant.

I looked at the radials in a model, and the change on 160 from your wall height and thickness was very minor, and could be made "very minor over N" by adding multiple over-the-wall wires. You only added a ~3 degree long stub.

73 Tom
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