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Re: Topband: NCC-1 Phaser

Subject: Re: Topband: NCC-1 Phaser
From: Art Snapper <art@nk8x.net>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 08:20:56 -0500
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Thanks guys for all the input - no pun intended.

What I have been considering, is to install a 4 square receive system,
offset from my Bog's by 45 degrees.

The two systems could then be phased as needed, for interference redux, or
signal improvement.

73,
Art NK8X
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On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 1:20 AM, Herbert Schoenbohm <
herbert.schoenbohm@gmail.com> wrote:

> What I use here is relatively simple in hooking up the NCC-1 Phaser.  The
> output on the unit,  of courses, goes to the radio and in my case since
> Icom w/o and external antenna port is use a DXE RTR-1A to provide the the
> RX/TX switching. (This also allows be to choose the TX antenna for RX with
> just a front panel switch.)  Now for the NCC-1 I feed ....the Port "B" from
> my 12 position passive video switcher and put in port "A" the best and most
> favorable antenna for the occasion.  (My 900 foot  West Beverage was used
> for K5P and my SE 600 foot Beverage was used for VP8STI on all bands from
> 160-30 Mhz)  This way my whole Beverage bank could be chosen as either the
> IX null antenna of the phased complimentary antenna depending on the
> circumstances.  With the "A" and "B" attenuation and the balance control on
> the front of the NCC-1  I can provide the unit with the equal levels.  I
> normally first use the phase control to null and then switch the phase
> control for a peak.  Just this evening on 40 meters with the DQRM on VP8STI
> (7150) coming from the mainland I could make it disappear and all that was
> left was Q5 copy on this very rare DX-Pedition.  Even on 3790 I was able to
> use both the SE and S Beverages to push VP8STI (Dave's K3LP) signal right
> out of the noise.
>
> Normally when DX-Peditions or a new country are not the issue on 160 I run
> the Beverage bank straight through by turning off the power switch on the
> unit.  If I want to change the "preferred"  I use the push on type F
> connectors for the most favored antennas as this allows for a faster turn
> around. The unit also provides for RCA but since I used F connectors I
> prefer this.  My 12 channel passive switcher is a Panasonic push button
> type which terminates all unused feed lines in 75 ohms  I have used the
> Dynair as well but they have harder to push round old school buttons and
> the Panasonic requires less pressure to actuate.  I can also use the 12
> positon selection to choose an antenna with the most QRN and then move to
> phase it down.  What is really nice about the NCC-1 is the size of the
> phasing knob and the ease of the operation. That was never the case with my
> MFJ-1026.
>
> I think now that I have found a way to make the performance on many
> Beverages even better on the low bands.
>
>
> Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ
>
> On 1/21/2016 9:25 PM, Art Snapper wrote:
>
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>>
>> Is there any preferred method to allow an easy choice of multiple main and
>> auxiliary antennas when using the phasing unit?
>>
>> I never quite figured that out with the 1026.  I envision ending up with
>> something resembling a CATV headend.
>>
>> 73
>> Art
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>>
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Herbert Schoenbohm <
>> herbert.schoenbohm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I did reverse cables constantly on the MFJ but the operations was always
>>> troublesome and time consuming with the 1026. The DXE NCC-1 operation is
>>> smooth and with the large phasing know obtaining nulls on much more
>>> reliable.  From what Ii have been to do with two major DX-peditions on
>>> 160
>>> in phasing RX Beverages to me there is no comparison.  Although the NCC-1
>>> is a bit expensive I have come to the conclusion that it is worth every
>>> penny.
>>>
>>> Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ
>>>
>>> On 1/21/2016 6:35 PM, Mike Waters wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you for sharing your experience, Herb. I have an MFJ-1025 but
>>>> haven't used it since I moved to this QTH 11 years ago.
>>>>
>>>> However, it DID work very well for me in the past. Sometimes, to get it
>>>> to null unwanted line noise, I had to reverse the cable connections,
>>>> since
>>>> the MFJ phase adjustment does NOT cover the full 360 degrees unless we
>>>> do.
>>>>
>>>> Did you know about that? I don't recall if that was in the manual. Do
>>>> you
>>>> remember if you reversed the coax? Just trying to see of that might have
>>>> been why there was such a tremendous improvement between the MFJ and the
>>>> DXE product.
>>>>
>>>> 73, Mike
>>>> www.w0btu.com <http://www.w0btu.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Herbert Schoenbohm <
>>>> herbert.schoenbohm@gmail.com <mailto:herbert.schoenbohm@gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>      After nearly two years of trying to get some measurable
>>>>      improvement with the MFJ-1026 noise cancelling box I finally gave
>>>>      up and sold them on E-Bay and purchased a DX-Engineering NCC-1.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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