Topband
[Top] [All Lists]

Re: Topband: Inv L Config

To: "REFLECTOR: Topband" <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Inv L Config
From: donovanf@starpower.net
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 00:28:23 -0500 (EST)
List-post: <topband@contesting.com">mailto:topband@contesting.com>
A very important caution about the performance of T-verticals 
vs. Inverted-L verticals. 



If the performance of your 40 meter antennas is important to 
you and your T-vertical is within 300 feet of your 40 meter 
antenna, its important that the top of your T should be less 
than 55 feet long or more than 80 feet long. 


Why? If the T-top is 55-66 feet long it will act as a 40 meter 
director. If its 66-80 feet long it will behave as a 40 meter 
reflector. Don't ask me how I discovered this... 


If the top of a T-vertical needs to be 55-80 feet long and within 
300 feet of a 40 meter antenna that you don't want to degrade, 
its better to use an inverted-L vertical, which has little or no 
affect on nearby higher frequency antennas. 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 




----- Original Message -----

From: "Guy Olinger K2AV" <k2av.guy@gmail.com> 
To: "Jerry Keller" <k3bz@verizon.net> 
Cc: "REFLECTOR: Topband" <topband@contesting.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 5:05:37 AM 
Subject: Re: Topband: Inv L Config 

The horizontal section also radiates, more or less than the vertical 
depends on the specifics. Easy to see in a very simple NEC model. If you 
are opposed to radiation from the horizontal on principle, then put up a T. 
But the radiation from an L's horizontal fills in the doughnut hole in the 
pattern, essentially getting the energy for that by taking it away from 
ground losses. Assuming that on 160 one has RX antennas because TX antennas 
are notoriously noisy, then you only care about what happens to TX. Filling 
in the doughnut hole helps to minimize or eliminate skip zones, and help 
keep a run frequency running low power. 

The effect of a particular change to wires applies more to where the 
current is more. Given that, doubling the vertical wire is what you do. But 
I would model that and see what it buys you. Do the change both in free 
space and over ugly dirt. 

73, Guy K2AV 

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 11:37 PM, Jerry Keller <k3bz@verizon.net> wrote: 

> Is it advantageous to make both the vertical and the horizontal sections 
> "fat" (for improved bandwidth), or is it enough to "fatten" the vertical 
> (radiating) section ? How much BW will 3" diameter spacers give me? 
> 
> 73, K3BZ 
> _________________ 
> Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband 
> 
_________________ 
Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband 

_________________
Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>