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Re: Topband: BOG Beverage on Ground Help

To: K9FD <merv.k9fd@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: BOG Beverage on Ground Help
From: Andrey Fedorishchev <ra6lbs@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 00:59:03 +0300
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But then it canalso be transmission line on a ground.
In a form of coax line, twisted line.



ср, 4 дек. 2019 г. в 00:27, K9FD <merv.k9fd@gmail.com>:

> WOG  wire on the ground
>
> > I agree with Bob. I think the name BOG is firmly entrenched, whatever the
> > electrical differences. Oh, I could propose a new name, but I doubt it
> > would ever stick.
> >
> > I'll go back to my Otter/Platypus to propose a parable:
> >
> > Suppose that the Platypus had instead gotten the name of Duckfaced Otter,
> > and that was firmly entrenched in the language regardless of the science
> > placing the Duckfaced in a different Latin-worded species.
> >
> > Then on a reflector, an argument crops up, someone says that the
> Duckfaced
> > Otter lays eggs. Others deride that statement, saying everyone knows that
> > an Otter is a mammal, that mammals give live birth and Otters do not lay
> > eggs. Some, quite irritated, ask wouldn't the Duckfaced Otter have been
> > named differently if it was really that different? Probably because it
> was
> > named centuries before people knew it laid eggs.
> >
> > In the science, the egg-laying, out of many differences, all by
> > itself would put the Duckfaced Otter into a different species, because
> such
> > differences are what define different species. Overall, most already know
> > that the Duckfaced Otter only *looks* like an otter, really isn't. But
> they
> > still call it the Duckfaced Otter because that's what the language calls
> > it. Who among us ever gets to successfully take on the language?
> >
> > ---End of Parable---
> >
> > Beverage                       Otter
> >
> > On-ground Beverage     Duckfaced Otter
> >
> > Both are a longish          Both have brown
> > wire parallel to earth,      water repellent fur coat.
> > only used for RX.            and love the water.
> >
> > Isn't it really about time that the masses on the reflectors know that a
> > BOG has irritating issues that no up-in-the-air beverage has to design
> > around, but must be taken into account designing a BOG? That any Beverage
> > strategy has to be analyzed laying on the ground to see if it really
> > applies to a BOG?
> >
> > The antenna category is Ground Low Velocity Factor. The short for that
> > could be GLVF, except we already call those -on-ground or OG. Dipole on
> > Ground is a DOG, Loop on Ground is a LOG, Beverage on ground is a BOG. In
> > this system "Beverage" is only one possible shape of the wire laying on
> the
> > ground. How a BOG behaves and how to engineer/model one is really only
> one
> > application of how OG behaves and how to engineer OG.
> >
> > I think OG is just fine. I don't think OG needs a new name. Just remember
> > that BOG is only one shape instance of OG, and OG controls the
> engineering.
> >
> > 73, Guy K2AV
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 6:38 PM Chortek, Robert L. <
> > Robert.Chortek@berliner.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I don’t think it matters what label we use as long as we correctly
> >> understand its electrical properties.....
> >>
> >> AA6VB
> >>
> >> Bob
> >> Robert L. Chortek
> >>
> >>> On Dec 2, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> [External Email]
> >>>
> >>> K2AV says ".BOG is not a Beverage. So don't think about or treat a BOG
> >> like
> >>> a Beverage."
> >>>
> >>> <snip>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You seem pretty adamant about that Guy.
> >>>
> >>> What *SHOULD* we be calling it then please?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mike VE9AA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Keswick Ridge, NB
> >>>
> >>>
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