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Re: Topband: DL8LAS

To: "'topband@contesting.com'" <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: DL8LAS
From: W3HKK@roadrunner.com
Reply-to: W3HKK@roadrunner.com
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2021 17:43:35 +0000
List-post: <mailto:topband@contesting.com>
Andy you were coming in head over heels above any other Euro last
night. I CQ'd but all my RBN reports were on the weak side. So maybe
it was a bit of one way skip.

However, this morning at SR I was getting good signal reports from
HL/VK. So westerly signals were doing better than easterly ones?

Bob

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 1. Nice 160m opening EU this morning (Andree DL8LAS)
 2. On FT8 160m now using Helium Balloon antenna 40m high. (Adrian)
 3. CQ Zones (David Olean)
 4. Re: CQ Zones (Ian Fugler)
 5. Re: CQ Zones (Martin Kratoska)
 6. Re: CQ Zones (Hans Hjelmstr?m)
 7. Re: CQ Zones (W0MU Mike Fatchett)
 8. Re: CQ Zones (Karel Matousek)
 9. Re: CQ Zones (Joe Subich, W4TV)
 10. Re: CQ Zones (Chortek, Robert L.)
 11. Re: CQ Zones (ok1tn )
 12. Re: CQ Zones (uy0zg)

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 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 06:03:19 +0000 (UTC)
 From: Andree DL8LAS 
 To: topband@contesting.com
 Subject: Topband: Nice 160m opening EU this morning
 Message-ID: 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 What a nice NA opening on 160m this morning,? worked 19x NA , loudest
signals were K4IOJ and K1WHS.
 The new IC-7851 works very well.

 https://clublog.org/livestream/DL8LAS
 />
 I hope the condx will be also good next weekend in stew perry
contest.

 73 Andy DL8LAS

 ------------------------------

 Message: 2
 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 21:29:17 +1000
 From: "Adrian" 
 To: 
 Subject: Topband: On FT8 160m now using Helium Balloon antenna 40m
 high.
 Message-ID: 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

 On FT8 160m now using Helium Balloon antenna, 40m high & 200w only
(amp
 getting repaired).

 vk4tux

 ------------------------------

 Message: 3
 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 08:29:56 -0500
 From: David Olean 
 To: "topband@contesting.com" 
 Subject: Topband: CQ Zones
 Message-ID: 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

 I am not a certificate hunter, but I was curious to see how many CQ
 zones I had worked on 160 meters.? Getting all 40 zones on 160 is a
 challenge. My list includes 38 of the 40 CQ zones,? and only zones 23
 and 24 are still unworked.. My question is how to nab these last
two??
 Part of my problem is the lack of stations available in those two
spots.
 A few weeks ago I was CQing in the early evening and worked R8WF on
CW.
 He is located in Zone 18 and just north of eastern Mongolia. (North
of
 Beijing)? I was very surprised at that QSO, as the band was empty
with
 few signals audible on CW. Shortly after we worked, he called again
much
 louder. It must have been right after his sun rise and he was a good
S7
 or so. The direct path is 360 degrees here and directly over the
North
 Pole. I was using my 45 degree beverage. I was stunned at how strong?
 R8WF was.

 So what are the station call signs active in zones 23 and 24? Being a
 relative newcomer to 160 and HF in general, I am not so familiar with
 active DX call signs from around the world. I would suspect that
China
 is possible to work at my sun rise, but I have yet to hear anything
from
 there. Mongolia seems like another difficult nut to crack, hence my
note
 on who and what to look for!? Any help with call signs would be
appreciated.

 After the R8WF QSO, I am convinced that an antenna aimed due North is
a
 necessity in case that path decides to open. I am also going to make
a
 SE beverage, as I have been told that SE is a good direction for LP
QSOs
 on 160. I have no antenna for between 90 and 180 degrees azimuth.

 Thank you

 Dave K1WHS

 ------------------------------

 Message: 4
 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 14:16:39 -0000
 From: "Ian Fugler" 
 To: "'David Olean'" , 
 Subject: Re: Topband: CQ Zones
 Message-ID: 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

 Hi, Dave

 Zone 23 - JT5DX will be your man. He is active in contests and puts
out a good signal.

 Zone 24 - will be more of a challenge. I have worked XX9D and a
couple of BY stations. But you may need to use FT8 for the BY
stations, since they seem strongly to prefer that mode.

 73 and GL!

 Ian G4iiY

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Topband
[mailto:topband-bounces+zen90387=zen.co.uk@contesting.com] On Behalf
Of David Olean
 Sent: 09 March 2021 13:30
 To: topband@contesting.com
 Subject: Topband: CQ Zones

 I am not a certificate hunter, but I was curious to see how many CQ
 zones I had worked on 160 meters. Getting all 40 zones on 160 is a
 challenge. My list includes 38 of the 40 CQ zones, and only zones 23
 and 24 are still unworked.. My question is how to nab these last two?
 Part of my problem is the lack of stations available in those two
spots.
 A few weeks ago I was CQing in the early evening and worked R8WF on
CW.
 He is located in Zone 18 and just north of eastern Mongolia. (North
of
 Beijing) I was very surprised at that QSO, as the band was empty with
 few signals audible on CW. Shortly after we worked, he called again
much
 louder. It must have been right after his sun rise and he was a good
S7
 or so. The direct path is 360 degrees here and directly over the
North
 Pole. I was using my 45 degree beverage. I was stunned at how strong
 R8WF was.

 So what are the station call signs active in zones 23 and 24? Being a
 relative newcomer to 160 and HF in general, I am not so familiar with
 active DX call signs from around the world. I would suspect that
China
 is possible to work at my sun rise, but I have yet to hear anything
from
 there. Mongolia seems like another difficult nut to crack, hence my
note
 on who and what to look for! Any help with call signs would be
appreciated.

 After the R8WF QSO, I am convinced that an antenna aimed due North is
a
 necessity in case that path decides to open. I am also going to make
a
 SE beverage, as I have been told that SE is a good direction for LP
QSOs
 on 160 I have no antenna for between 90 and 180 degrees azimuth.

 Thank you

 Dave K1WHS

 _________________
 Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband [1] - Topband
Reflector

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 Message: 5
 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 15:36:31 +0100
 From: Martin Kratoska 
 To: topband@contesting.com
 Subject: Re: Topband: CQ Zones
 Message-ID: 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2; format=flowed

 Oh, FT8 should be proclaimed as illegal for DXCC (WAZ, WAS etc.) in
 mixed categories.
 This "mode" should be counted completely separated from traditional
 modes like CW or SSB.

 73,
 Martin, OK1RR

 Dne 09. 03. 21 v 15:16 Ian Fugler napsal(a):
 > Hi, Dave
 >
 > Zone 23 - JT5DX will be your man. He is active in contests and puts
out a good signal.
 >
 > Zone 24 - will be more of a challenge. I have worked XX9D and a
couple of BY stations. But you may need to use FT8 for the BY
stations, since they seem strongly to prefer that mode.
 >
 > 73 and GL!
 >
 > Ian G4iiY
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Topband
[mailto:topband-bounces+zen90387=zen.co.uk@contesting.com] On Behalf
Of David Olean
 > Sent: 09 March 2021 13:30
 > To: topband@contesting.com
 > Subject: Topband: CQ Zones
 >
 > I am not a certificate hunter, but I was curious to see how many CQ
 > zones I had worked on 160 meters. Getting all 40 zones on 160 is a
 > challenge My list includes 38 of the 40 CQ zones, and only zones
23
 > and 24 are still unworked.. My question is how to nab these last
two?
 > Part of my problem is the lack of stations available in those two
spots.
 > A few weeks ago I was CQing in the early evening and worked R8WF on
CW.
 > He is located in Zone 18 and just north of eastern Mongolia. (North
of
 > Beijing) I was very surprised at that QSO, as the band was empty
with
 > few signals audible on CW. Shortly after we worked, he called again
much
 > louder. It must have been right after his sun rise and he was a
good S7
 > or so. The direct path is 360 degrees here and directly over the
North
 > Pole. I was using my 45 degree beverage. I was stunned at how
strong
 > R8WF was.
 >
 > So what are the station call signs active in zones 23 and 24? Being
a
 > relative newcomer to 160 and HF in general, I am not so familiar
with
 > active DX call signs from around the world. I would suspect that
China
 > is possible to work at my sun rise, but I have yet to hear anything
from
 > there. Mongolia seems like another difficult nut to crack, hence my
note
 > on who and what to look for! Any help with call signs would be
appreciated.
 >
 > After the R8WF QSO, I am convinced that an antenna aimed due North
is a
 > necessity in case that path decides to open. I am also going to
make a
 > SE beverage, as I have been told that SE is a good direction for LP
QSOs
 > on 160. I have no antenna for between 90 and 180 degrees azimuth.
 >
 > Thank you
 >
 > Dave K1WHS
 >
 >
 > _________________
 > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband [3] -
Topband Reflector
 >
 >

 ------------------------------

 Message: 6
 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 15:50:45 +0100
 From: Hans Hjelmstr?m 
 To: martin@ok1rr.com
 Cc: topband@contesting.com
 Subject: Re: Topband: CQ Zones
 Message-ID: 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 AGREE 100 % with you Martin /OK1RR.

 This FT 8 PC to PC playgame is just killing our hobby,at least as I
see it.

 Take care and enjoy,and I am SURE ARRL will never listen to your
 feelings.

 Hans SM6CVX
 > 9 mar 2021 kl. 15:36 skrev Martin Kratoska :
 >
 > Oh, FT8 should be proclaimed as illegal for DXCC (WAZ, WAS etc.) in
mixed categories.
 > This "mode" should be counted completely separated from traditional
modes like CW or SSB.
 >
 > 73,
 > Martin, OK1RR
 >
 >
 > Dne 09. 03. 21 v 15:16 Ian Fugler napsal(a):
 >> Hi, Dave
 >>
 >> Zone 23 - JT5DX will be your man. He is active in contests and
puts out a good signal.
 >>
 >> Zone 24 - will be more of a challenge. I have worked XX9D and a
couple of BY stations. But you may need to use FT8 for the BY
stations, since they seem strongly to prefer that mode.
 >>
 >> 73 and GL!
 >>
 >> Ian G4iiY
 >>
 >> -----Original Message-----
 >> From: Topband
[mailto:topband-bounces+zen90387=zen.co.uk@contesting.com] On Behalf
Of David Olean
 >> Sent: 09 March 2021 13:30
 >> To: topband@contesting.com
 >> Subject: Topband: CQ Zones
 >>
 >> I am not a certificate hunter, but I was curious to see how many
CQ
 >> zones I had worked on 160 meters. Getting all 40 zones on 160 is a
 >> challenge. My list includes 38 of the 40 CQ zones, and only zones
23
 >> and 24 are still unworked.. My question is how to nab these last
two?
 >> Part of my problem is the lack of stations available in those two
spots.
 >> A few weeks ago I was CQing in the early evening and worked R8WF
on CW.
 >> He is located in Zone 18 and just north of eastern Mongolia.
(North of
 >> Beijing) I was very surprised at that QSO, as the band was empty
with
 >> few signals audible on CW. Shortly after we worked, he called
again much
 >> louder. It must have been right after his sun rise and he was a
good S7
 >> or so. The direct path is 360 degrees here and directly over the
North
 >> Pole. I was using my 45 degree beverage. I was stunned at how
strong
 >> R8WF was.
 >>
 >> So what are the station call signs active in zones 23 and 24?
Being a
 >> relative newcomer to 160 and HF in general, I am not so familiar
with
 >> active DX call signs from around the world. I would suspect that
China
 >> is possible to work at my sun rise, but I have yet to hear
anything from
 >> there. Mongolia seems like another difficult nut to crack, hence
my note
 >> on who and what to look for! Any help with call signs would be
appreciated.
 >>
 >> After the R8WF QSO, I am convinced that an antenna aimed due North
is a
 >> necessity in case that path decides to open. I am also going to
make a
 >> SE beverage, as I have been told that SE is a good direction for
LP QSOs
 >> on 160. I have no antenna for between 90 and 180 degrees azimuth.
 >>
 >> Thank you
 >>
 >> Dave K1WHS
 >>
 >>
 >> _________________
 >> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband [4] -
Topband Reflector
 >>
 >>
 >
 > _________________
 > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband [5] -
Topband Reflector

 ------------------------------

 Message: 7
 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 08:01:08 -0700
 From: W0MU Mike Fatchett 
 To: topband@contesting.com
 Subject: Re: Topband: CQ Zones
 Message-ID: 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

 CQ Awards are not run by the ARRL.

 If you don't like FT/X then don't use it.

 Killing the hobby? Hardly.? Changing it, certainly.

 W0MU

 On 3/9/2021 7:50 AM, Hans Hjelmstr?m wrote:
 > AGREE 100 % with you Martin /OK1RR.
 >
 > This FT 8 PC to PC playgame is just killing our hobby,at least as I
see it.
 >
 > Take care and enjoy,and I am SURE ARRL will never listen to your
 > feelings.
 >
 > Hans SM6CVX
 >> 9 mar 2021 kl. 15:36 skrev Martin Kratoska :
 >>
 >> Oh, FT8 should be proclaimed as illegal for DXCC (WAZ, WAS etc.)
in mixed categories.
 >> This "mode" should be counted completely separated from
traditional modes like CW or SSB.
 >>
 >> 73,
 >> Martin, OK1RR
 >>
 >>
 >> Dne 09. 03. 21 v 15:16 Ian Fugler napsal(a):
 >>> Hi, Dave
 >>>
 >>> Zone 23 - JT5DX will be your man. He is active in contests and
puts out a good signal.
 >>>
 >>> Zone 24 - will be more of a challenge. I have worked XX9D and a
couple of BY stations. But you may need to use FT8 for the BY
stations, since they seem strongly to prefer that mode.
 >>>
 >>> 73 and GL!
 >>>
 >>> Ian G4iiY
 >>>
 >>> -----Original Message-----
 >>> From: Topband
[mailto:topband-bounces+zen90387=zen.co.uk@contesting.com] On Behalf
Of David Olean
 >>> Sent: 09 March 2021 13:30
 >>> To: topband@contesting.com
 >>> Subject: Topband: CQ Zones
 >>>
 >>> I am not a certificate hunter, but I was curious to see how many
CQ
 >>> zones I had worked on 160 meters. Getting all 40 zones on 160 is
a
 >>> challenge. My list includes 38 of the 40 CQ zones, and only zones
23
 >>> and 24 are still unworked.. My question is how to nab these last
two?
 >>> Part of my problem is the lack of stations available in those two
spots.
 >>> A few weeks ago I was CQing in the early evening and worked R8WF
on CW.
 >>> He is located in Zone 18 and just north of eastern Mongolia.
(North of
 >>> Beijing) I was very surprised at that QSO, as the band was empty
with
 >>> few signals audible on CW. Shortly after we worked, he called
again much
 >>> louder. It must have been right after his sun rise and he was a
good S7
 >>> or so. The direct path is 360 degrees here and directly over the
North
 >>> Pole. I was using my 45 degree beverage. I was stunned at how
strong
 >>> R8WF was.
 >>>
 >>> So what are the station call signs active in zones 23 and 24?
Being a
 >>> relative newcomer to 160 and HF in general, I am not so familiar
with
 >>> active DX call signs from around the world. I would suspect that
China
 >>> is possible to work at my sun rise, but I have yet to hear
anything from
 >>> there. Mongolia seems like another difficult nut to crack, hence
my note
 >>> on who and what to look for! Any help with call signs would be
appreciated.
 >>>
 >>> After the R8WF QSO, I am convinced that an antenna aimed due
North is a
 >>> necessity in case that path decides to open. I am also going to
make a
 >>> SE beverage, as I have been told that SE is a good direction for
LP QSOs
 >>> on 160. I have no antenna for between 90 and 180 degrees azimuth.
 >>>
 >>> Thank you
 >>>
 >>> Dave K1WHS
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> _________________
 >>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband [6] -
Topband Reflector
 >>>
 >>>
 >> _________________
 >> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband [7] -
Topband Reflector
 > _________________
 > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband [8] -
Topband Reflector

 ------------------------------

 Message: 8
 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2021 16:10:50 +0100
 From: Karel Matousek 
 To: 
 Subject: Re: Topband: CQ Zones
 Message-ID: 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

 I agree wit Martin OK1RR.
 ?
 I cannot endorse FT4, FT8 for the ARRL DXCC Program.
 ?
 IMHO, this should NEVER be allowed unless qualified in a separate
rules category!
 ?
 Karel OK1CF
 ______________________________________________________________
 > Od: "Martin Kratoska" 
 > Komu: topband@contesting.com
 > Datum: 09.03.2021 15:37
 > P?edm?t: Re: Topband: CQ Zones
 >
 Oh, FT8 should be proclaimed as illegal for DXCC (WAZ, WAS etc.) in
 mixed categories.
 This "mode" should be counted completely separated from traditional
 modes like CW or SSB.

 73,
 Martin, OK1RR

 Dne 09. 03. 21 v 15:16 Ian Fugler napsal(a):
 > Hi, Dave
 >
 > Zone 23 - JT5DX will be your man. ?He is active in contests and
puts out a good signal.
 >
 > Zone 24 - will be more of a challenge. ?I have worked XX9D and a
couple of BY stations. ?But you may need to use FT8 for the BY
stations, since they seem strongly to prefer that mode.
 >
 > 73 and GL!
 >
 > Ian G4iiY
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Topband
[mailto:topband-bounces+zen90387=zen.co.uk@contesting.com] On Behalf
Of David Olean
 > Sent: 09 March 2021 13:30
 > To: topband@contesting.com
 > Subject: Topband: CQ Zones
 >
 > I am not a certificate hunter, but I was curious to see how many CQ
 > zones I had worked on 160 meters. ?Getting all 40 zones on 160 is a
 > challenge. My list includes 38 of the 40 CQ zones, ?and only zones
23
 > and 24 are still unworked.. My question is how to nab these last
two?
 > Part of my problem is the lack of stations available in those two
spots.
 > A few weeks ago I was CQing in the early evening and worked R8WF on
CW.
 > He is located in Zone 18 and just north of eastern Mongolia. (North
of
 > Beijing) ?I was very surprised at that QSO, as the band was empty
with
 > few signals audible on CW. Shortly after we worked, he called again
much
 > louder. It must have been right after his sun rise and he was a
good S7
 > or so. The direct path is 360 degrees here and directly over the
North
 > Pole. I was using my 45 degree beverage. I was stunned at how
strong
 > R8WF was.
 >
 > So what are the station call signs active in zones 23 and 24? Being
a
 > relative newcomer to 160 and HF in general, I am not so familiar
with
 > active DX call signs from around the world. I would suspect that
China
 > is possible to work at my sun rise, but I have yet to hear anything
from
 > there. Mongolia seems like another difficult nut to crack, hence my
note
 > on who and what to look for! ?Any help with call signs would be
appreciated.
 >
 > After the R8WF QSO, I am convinced that an antenna aimed due North
is a
 > necessity in case that path decides to open. I am also going to
make a
 > SE beverage, as I have been told that SE is a good direction for LP
QSOs
 > on 160. I have no antenna for between 90 and 180 degrees azimuth.
 >
 > Thank you
 >
 > Dave K1WHS
 >
 >
 > _________________
 > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband [9]  [10] -
Topband Reflector
 >
 >

 _________________
 Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband [11]  [12] -
Topband Reflector

 ------------------------------

 Message: 9
 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 10:27:04 -0500
 From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" 
 To: topband@contesting.com
 Subject: Re: Topband: CQ Zones
 Message-ID: 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

 Oh PLEASE! You sound just like AM phone operators when SSB came
 along. And spark operators when CW started to replace it.

 The first DX was nothing more than single letters ...

 73,

 ... Joe, W4TV

 On 2021-03-09 10:10 AM, Karel Matousek wrote:
 > I agree wit Martin OK1RR.
 >
 > I cannot endorse FT4, FT8 for the ARRL DXCC Program.
 >
 > IMHO, this should NEVER be allowed unless qualified in a separate
rules
 > category!
 >
 > Karel OK1CF
 > ______________________________________________________________
 >> Od: "Martin Kratoska" 
 >> Komu: topband@contesting.com
 >> Datum: 09.03.2021 15:37
 >> P?edm?t: Re: Topband: CQ Zones
 >>
 > Oh, FT8 should be proclaimed as illegal for DXCC (WAZ, WAS etc.) in
 > mixed categories.
 > This "mode" should be counted completely separated from traditional
 > modes like CW or SSB.
 >
 > 73,
 > Martin, OK1RR
 >
 >
 > Dne 09. 03. 21 v 15:16 Ian Fugler napsal(a):
 > > Hi, Dave
 > >
 > > Zone 23 - JT5DX will be your man. ?He is active in contests and
puts
 > out a good signal.
 > >
 > > Zone 24 - will be more of a challenge. ?I have worked XX9D and a
 > couple of BY stations. ?But you may need to use FT8 for the BY
stations,
 > since they seem strongly to prefer that mode.
 > >
 > > 73 and GL!
 > >
 > > Ian G4iiY
 > >

 ------------------------------

 Message: 10
 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 15:30:48 +0000
 From: "Chortek, Robert L." 
 To: "Joe Subich, W4TV" 
 Cc: "topband@contesting.com" 
 Subject: Re: Topband: CQ Zones
 Message-ID: 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

 THANK YOU JOE! That pretty much captures the debate.

 73,

 Bob/AA6VB
 Robert L. Chortek

 > On Mar 9, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:
 >
 > ?[External Email]
 >
 > Oh PLEASE! You sound just like AM phone operators when SSB came
 > along. And spark operators when CW started to replace it.
 >
 > The first DX was nothing more than single letters ...
 >
 > 73,
 >
 > ... Joe, W4TV
 >
 >
 >> On 2021-03-09 10:10 AM, Karel Matousek wrote:
 >> I agree wit Martin OK1RR.
 >>
 >> I cannot endorse FT4, FT8 for the ARRL DXCC Program.
 >>
 >> IMHO, this should NEVER be allowed unless qualified in a separate
rules
 >> category!
 >>
 >> Karel OK1CF
 >> ______________________________________________________________
 >>> Od: "Martin Kratoska" 
 >>> Komu: topband@contesting.com
 >>> Datum: 09.03.2021 15:37
 >>> P?edm?t: Re: Topband: CQ Zones
 >>>
 >> Oh, FT8 should be proclaimed as illegal for DXCC (WAZ, WAS etc.)
in
 >> mixed categories.
 >> This "mode" should be counted completely separated from
traditional
 >> modes like CW or SSB.
 >>
 >> 73,
 >> Martin, OK1RR
 >>
 >>
 >> Dne 09. 03. 21 v 15:16 Ian Fugler napsal(a):
 >> > Hi, Dave
 >> >
 >> > Zone 23 - JT5DX will be your man. He is active in contests and
puts
 >> out a good signal.
 >> >
 >> > Zone 24 - will be more of a challenge. I have worked XX9D and a
 >> couple of BY stations. But you may need to use FT8 for the BY
stations,
 >> since they seem strongly to prefer that mode.
 >> >
 >> > 73 and GL!
 >> >
 >> > Ian G4iiY
 >> >
 >
 >
 > _________________
 > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband [13] -
Topband Reflector

 ------------------------------

 Message: 11
 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2021 17:04:43 +0100 (CET)
 From: "ok1tn " 
 To: "Chortek, Robert L." 
 Cc: topband@contesting.com , "Joe Subich,
 W4TV" 
 Subject: Re: Topband: CQ Zones
 Message-ID: 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

 FT4 FT8 is just a computer game. It's not a ham radio
 OK1TN
 --
 73 Slavek Zeler

 ---------- P?vodn? e-mail ----------
 Od: Chortek, Robert L. 
 Komu: Joe Subich, W4TV 
 Datum: 9. 3. 2021 16:31:21
 P?edm?t: Re: Topband: CQ Zones
 "THANK YOU JOE! That pretty much captures the debate.

 73,

 Bob/AA6VB
 Robert L. Chortek

 > On Mar 9, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:
 >
 > ?[External Email]
 >
 > Oh PLEASE! You sound just like AM phone operators when SSB came
 > along. And spark operators when CW started to replace it.
 >
 > The first DX was nothing more than single letters ...
 >
 > 73,
 >
 > ... Joe, W4TV
 >
 >
 >> On 2021-03-09 10:10 AM, Karel Matousek wrote:
 >> I agree wit Martin OK1RR.
 >>
 >> I cannot endorse FT4, FT8 for the ARRL DXCC Program.
 >>
 >> IMHO, this should NEVER be allowed unless qualified in a separate
rules
 >> category!
 >>
 >> Karel OK1CF
 >> ______________________________________________________________
 >>> Od: "Martin Kratoska" 
 >>> Komu: topband@contesting.com
 >>> Datum: 09.03.2021 15:37
 >>> P?edm?t: Re: Topband: CQ Zones
 >>>
 >> Oh, FT8 should be proclaimed as illegal for DXCC (WAZ, WAS etc.)
in
 >> mixed categories.
 >> This "mode" should be counted completely separated from
traditional
 >> modes like CW or SSB.
 >>
 >> 73,
 >> Martin, OK1RR
 >>
 >>
 >> Dne 09. 03. 21 v 15:16 Ian Fugler napsal(a):
 >> > Hi, Dave
 >> >
 >> > Zone 23 - JT5DX will be your man. He is active in contests and
puts
 >> out a good signal.
 >> >
 >> > Zone 24 - will be more of a challenge. I have worked XX9D and a
 >> couple of BY stations. But you may need to use FT8 for the BY
stations,
 >> since they seem strongly to prefer that mode.
 >> >
 >> > 73 and GL!
 >> >
 >> > Ian G4iiY
 >> >
 >
 >
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 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2021 18:16:50 +0200
 From: uy0zg 
 To: David Olean 
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 Hi Dave

 I will disappoint you

 - R8WF is in zone 16.

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 Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua [16]

 David Olean ????? 2021-03-09 15:29:
 > I am not a certificate hunter, but I was curious to see how many CQ
 > zones I had worked on 160 meters.? Getting all 40 zones on 160 is a
 > challenge. My list includes 38 of the 40 CQ zones,? and only zones
23
 > and 24 are still unworked. My question is how to nab these last
two??
 > Part of my problem is the lack of stations available in those two
 > spots. A few weeks ago I was CQing in the early evening and worked
 > R8WF on CW. He is located in Zone 18 and just north of eastern
 > Mongolia. (North of Beijing)? I was very surprised at that QSO, as
the
 > band was empty with few signals audible on CW. Shortly after we
 > worked, he called again much louder. It must have been right after
his
 > sun rise and he was a good S7 or so. The direct path is 360 degrees
 > here and directly over the North Pole. I was using my 45 degree
 > beverage. I was stunned at how strong? R8WF was.
 >
 > So what are the station call signs active in zones 23 and 24? Being
a
 > relative newcomer to 160 and HF in general, I am not so familiar
with
 > active DX call signs from around the world. I would suspect that
China
 > is possible to work at my sun rise, but I have yet to hear anything
 > from there. Mongolia seems like another difficult nut to crack,
hence
 > my note on who and what to look for!? Any help with call signs
would
 > be appreciated.
 >
 > After the R8WF QSO, I am convinced that an antenna aimed due North
is
 > a necessity in case that path decides to open. I am also going to
make
 > a SE beverage, as I have been told that SE is a good direction for
LP
 > QSOs on 160. I have no antenna for between 90 and 180 degrees
azimuth.
 >
 > Thank you
 >
 > Dave K1WHS
 >
 >
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