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Subject: [TowerTalk] Telrex 40 M Beam restoration
From: Michael Tope" <W4EF@dellroy.com (Michael Tope)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 23:04:32 -0800
Tom/Chris,

Do either of your Telerex 40 meter beams have solid rod stainless steel element
tips? Dean Scarborough, KS8S used to have two 40M329 stacked at 90' and 180'.
As I recall, he had a problem with the stainless steel tips breaking off of the 
high
antenna. The stack never played very well, but his steel guys were not broken
up at all, so I suspect that this might have been part of the problem. 

Mike, W4EF...............................

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>; "Chris Kepus" <ckepus@calweb.com>
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Telrex 40 M Beam restoration


> Hi Chris,
> 
> > I am in the process of restoring a Telrex 40M329 beam.  I would like to
> > contact anyone with experience with this beam and especially someone who
> > is still using this fine antenna. 
> 
> I have a 40M346 or whatever the long boom 40 meter antenna is. 
> You really need to check some things on that antenna, if it is 
> anything like mine.
> 
> Telrex used two types of elements. The piece going to the boom is 
> OK, but the next taper has a single wall really thin tubing element 
> (as I recall something like .038 wall). Some beams use two thin 
> walls sleeved.
> 
> I strutted the elements on mine with tarred nylon supports, but that 
> wasn't enough. After a few  $400 trips by a crane to repair 
> elements, I just totally rebuilt the elements using normal 6061T-6 
> .058 wall aluminum with a normal element taper.
> 
> Now the antenna has finally lasted six months without a repair.
> 
> I also found the stock balun was junk. It had a small coil of coax 
> and a hunk of house wire in the balun. This balun is probably 
> different than yours, since my antenna has a 50 ohm feed it uses a 
> 1:1 balun. I replaced it with a homebrew balun. You probably don't 
> have the same balun, but the obvious design flaws in my antenna's 
> factory balun make me wonder how good the other baluns are. I 
> have no idea if the other baluns are OK, just that the factory 1:1 
> balun that came with my antenna was poor.  
> 
> The director tuning was OK, but the reflector on mine (using factory 
> elements) was far too low in the band. When I shortened the 
> reflector, F/B ratio became around 40 dB or more (measured) 
> compared to a pathetic 15-20 dB stock at the band center. Your 
> antenna is different, and may be OK. 
> 
> The antenna worked OK with factory reflector settings, but I found 
> them more for feedpoint impedance than F/B ratio. When I reset 
> the reflector (by watching F/B on a test tower 500 feet away) the 
> feedpoint was way off.
>  
> > Also I am interested if anyone has tried using this beam on 20M by
> > altering the feed system and using an antenna tuner?
> 
> I don't see any easy way to do that, I think you'd be asking for 
> trouble.
> 73, Tom W8JI
> w8ji@contesting.com
> 
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