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Subject: [Towertalk] Pouring base of tower
From: Tom Sessions" <k4rv@mindspring.com (Tom Sessions)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 22:13:46 -0000
 Nope,  Jim, not so.  I asked a true supplier of ready mix concrete.   The
professional supplier of concrete tells me not to worry about this epoxy.
You say otherwise. Who is correct?

 Thanks/73
Tom K4RV


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim White, K4OJ" <k4oj@tampabay.rr.com>
> To: "Tom Sessions" <k4rv@mindspring.com>
> Cc: "TowerTalk" <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 21:14
> Subject: Re: [Towertalk] Pouring base of tower
>
>
> > Tom, sounds to me like you made the error of asking a "Home Center"
> > person for help... they are only familiar with what they sell and this
> > is nto a Home Depot type item...
> >
> > Go to your telephone book - yellow pages - find concrete additives -
> > companies that distribute curing compounds, form release agents or
> > bonding agents will know what you need... they typically deal with the
> > commercial construction trade and not those who watch Home Time...
> >
> > The reason I have not cited any brand names is simple - I do not wish to
> > favour oe over another or give the impression that one will wrok where
> > another will not - there are many competitors in the business find a
> > distributor and he will sell the line he poromotes and inventories...
> >
> > OR use a search engine like Google and type in something like:
> >
> > construction epoxy hometown
> >
> > (where hometown is a major metropolitan area near you likely to have a
> > wholesaler of construction products)
> >
> > Again, this is not a hardware store or home center type item - it is
> > normally used in commercial construction - and believe me there will be
> > data sheets so you know how to use it properly!  Think about the
> > liability of incorrectly using a product on a high rise building :-)
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Jim, K4OJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Tom Sessions wrote:
> >
> > >    Where can the below mentioned epoxies be obtained?  What brand or
> > >product do I ask for when I get there?  Is there a website with info
for
> the
> > >epoxies?  Maybe I just missed it, but I've been reading about these
> epoxies
> > >here on this reflector and have found no specifics on what the product
> is-
> > >just a reference to "epoxy".
> > >
> > >Unfortunately??, my local concrete supplier had no idea why epoxy was
> > >necessary.  His advice this morning was to simply just pour a new batch
> of
> > >concrete any ole' time over the old.   So which is correct- join two
> > >separate pours with epoxy- or not?
> > >
> > >Thanks/73
> > >Tom K4RV
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >From: "Jim White, K4OJ" <k4oj@tampabay.rr.com>
> > >To: "Guy Olinger, K2AV" <k2av@contesting.com>
> > >Cc: <K7LXC@aol.com>; "TowerTalk" <towertalk@contesting.com>
> > >Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 05:34
> > >Subject: Re: [Towertalk] Pouring base of tower
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>...ANOTHER COMMERCIAL SITUATION WHERE MULTIPLE PIECES OF CONCRETE ARE
> > >>USED IS PILINGS
> > >>
> > >>There are pilings made out of reinforced condrete driving into the
> > >>ground which end up supporting commercial structures....
> > >>
> > >>Sometimes these pilings have to go very deep before they hit bedrock
and
> > >>become solid enough that the weight of a building will not cause them
to
> > >>sink and the building fall over....
> > >>
> > >>These are typicall reinforced concrete sticks.....they are pounded
into
> > >>the ground like XXX ground rods when they get so low that they run out
> > >>of rod and the ability to withstand weight is still ionsufficient they
> > >>glus on another one... that's right - with construction epoxy the
stick
> > >>another one on the end of the embedded XXX(s) ... and if that one ends
> > >>up being driven its entire length and they still don't have enought
> > >>resistance, on goes another....
> > >>
> > >>Construction epoxies are not that uncommon anymore - while the
> > >>quantities needed for a tower pad of two pour is significant enough to
> > >>buy in bulk - freqently used anchoring systems for threded rod used to
> > >>anchor the base of a house wall is sold in caulking type tubes for use
> > >>with a special gun that handles the two part mix bia two plungers
acting
> > >>in unison to squeeze out the adhesive and hardener simultaneously when
> > >>the handle is squeezed (smaller sized offerings are in double barrle
> > >>syringes for "one bolt" emergency operations) - this has becoime
cheaper
> > >>than the old school method of setting anchor bolts in the wet slab and
> > >>then drilling the plate at the bottom of the wall to match....a guy in
> > >>the field with the rigth tools can march right down the line drilling
> > >>the locations for the "to be eposies" thraded rods....
> > >>
> > >>As is true of most adhesives - when correctly applied they are
actually
> > >>stronger than what they hold together!
> > >>
> > >>73,
> > >>
> > >>Jim, K4OJ
> > >>
> > >>
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