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Re: [TowerTalk] Long feedlines

To: "'Rob Atkinson, K5UJ'" <k5uj@hotmail.com>, <stevek@jmr.com>,<towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Long feedlines
From: "Julio Peralta" <jperalta@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:39:22 -0400
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The run from my 89" crank-up is about 277 feet from feed point of the
antenna to the back of the radio. It's the only place I could put it.

Julio, W4HY

-----Original Message-----
From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Rob Atkinson,
K5UJ
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:31 PM
To: stevek@jmr.com; towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Long feedlines

okay i missed the crank up part or forgot it--sorry about that; tnx for
the 
correction--of course for a crank up, heliax is out of the question.
As 
one who is not there, there is obviously a lot about this situation I
don't 
know, but it seems kind of unusual to me that a crank up would be
located 
that far out from the shack.   In any event, LMR is probably the way to
go.  
Andrew has a "flex" heliax but I have never handled it and don't know
much 
about it at all.

rob/k5uj


From: Steve Katz <stevek@jmr.com>
To: "'Rob Atkinson, K5UJ'" <k5uj@hotmail.com>, towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] Long feedlines
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 16:24:48 -0700

I thought the original post said it was an 89' crank-up tower.  You
can't
run Heliax up a crank up unless you crank it up and leave it there.  The
larger "RG-213 type" cables are RG-217/U and then, larger, is RG17/U.
Low
loss for sure but generally heavier than Heliax etc. because it's solid
dielectric.  RG17 is pretty heavy stuff, I don't know I'd torture myself
with it on a tower but it's great for "on the ground," or tied to a
messenger cable, or buried.-WB2WIK/6

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Atkinson, K5UJ [mailto:k5uj@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 4:14 PM
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Long feedlines


For the 2 or 3 hundred foot run out and up the tower, I'd definitely
consider some kind of andrew heliax (not the stuff you have to
pressurize),
the widest diam. you can afford, especially for the 2 m. antenna.   I
wouldn't stop at the tower base--I'd go right up it to the point where
the
rotator is before a transfer to something that will loop around and
flex.
Some guys swear by the coax that's like RG213 only 1 inch diam. (RG18?
can't

remember) and while it can handle a lot of power,  I've seen it way up
there

in price, > $10/foot and it's heavy, and the dielectric wants to slide
inside because of its weight when going vertical.  I'd try heliax first.
price it at www.davisrf.com

for the tv ant. on the mountain, how long is the run?

rob/k5uj

btw, for a long long run, as in 1000 ft. or more, on HF and below, from
a
loss standpoint, the best thing is probably still open wire feed.

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