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Re: [TowerTalk] Motorize a "Hazer"

To: <towertalk@contesting.com>, "Bill Winkis" <kc4pe@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Motorize a "Hazer"
From: "Asfco" <asfco@nycap.rr.com>
Reply-to: Asfco <asfco@nycap.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:06:20 -0500
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I like the idea of having a motorized hazer system and I can undestand why 
you would want to do this. While I   am not an expert when it comes to doing 
this this  I would think that the superwinch is waay overkill for this 
application..This is the same winch I had on my old Land Rover. I used that 
winch to pull myself up steep embankments & out of waist deep muck. Perhaps 
you might be better off looking atn one of the winches made for an ATV  ?? 
do a google searh for  ATV winch  see if that would work for you..
73
John W2GB

----- Original Message -----,,
From: "Bill Winkis" <kc4pe@mindspring.com>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
Cc: <kc4pe@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Motorize a "Hazer"


>I have a 60 foot Rohn 25 with a Trolley Hazer on it ...been in use as
> a test/build-it tower for over 10 years.... It's nice to build
> antennas at waist level, then crank'em up and test etc...you get the 
> picture...
>
> But now the arms and knees are saying no more hand cranking so why
> not motorize it....???
>
> Right now its got a 1500 pound 5:1 Fulton on it and no problems, it
> pulls a 5/16 cable up 60 feet and down 55 feet with 8 turns still on
> the drum...
> I figure the greatest weight including Hazer/rotor/antenna would be
> less than 150 pounds, so at this point the 1500 pound Fulton hasn't
> grunted yet...
>
> Now the Hazer folks sell a 12 volt winch for a 48 foot tower and its
> got a 1500 pound 12v horizontal winch  and nobody wants to talk about
> a vertical pull figures...
>
> Superwinch has a new 8400 pound horizontal pull that will handle the
> 120 feet of cable and is positive up and down with brake etc...and
> its only $400.00
> The gear ratio is 235:1 .... if this is a workable item I would put a
> programmable ampmeter in the DC line and set alarm points in it so if 
> something
>  gets stuck and the amperage goes up/spikes, the alarm will sound etc....
>
> The only thing I don't like is the 12 volts.....I would have to run
> it off the truck in order to get the DC amperage necessary ....
>
> Or maybe the way to go would be to buy a 4500 pound Fulton put a
> pulley on  and 50:1 gear reduction ... a 1HP motor wire for up/down
> and be done with it..???
> Of course the costs going this route would be around 6-700 dollars...
>
> Here are the specs on the Superwinch:
>
> http://www.superwinch.com/LP8500_8_500_lbs.html
>
> Idea's...???
>
> -Bill
> kc4pe@mindspring.com
>
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