Oaky. As you chase to post here rather than personally, I will reply.
No one, at any time, said you manufactured the antennas, but selling
to those you know are using them illegally is not what I would call
upright and honest either as you should know the interference they
cause and the problems that we, as hams, get complaints about form
those who do not know the difference. You are only the distributor,
but you also post pictures and commentary from those you most
certainly know are using the antenna illegally as freebanders or on
the CB bands. This is done, as in all advertising, to entice those who
would use the product. In this case, it is very clearly other CBers
and illegal spectrum users.
It matters not which antenna manufacturers make what antennas, as the
11 meter band once was a ham band and is in legal use elsewhere - thus
the antennas are "legal" for want of another word. It is the selling
and overt promotion of them in the US to those who would use them
illegally I addressed and which I know you fully understand. You would
think a "OO for the League and FCC" would care about illegal use of
the radio spectrum, yet you state "it is not my business what those
CBers are doing on there frequencies, I really don't care and honestly
I don't think you should."
Absolutely wrong. I care as do many others, and many others will care
even more when 10 meters heats back up and there is the same level of
interference from the freebanders on ten meters as there was in the
past.
And, for the record, there is no "Ham holier than though" attitude
here. CBer do a lot of good during disasters, etc. and no one at any
time stated otherwise. The same goes for the childish comment
"yourself and anyone who has not owned one of these antennas, but is
going to make statements negative statements and comments, are really
showing a lack of intelligence, which really surprises me. In fact the
comments are more in line with those 11 meter people rather than
intelligent ham operators." I would think that maligning your CB
antenn customers in such a way would also not be good for business.
Also for the record - I've been a ham for 30 years, operate at 1 watt
99% of the time (cw,ssb,psk), and I'm a past editor of QRP Quarterly -
a magazine dedicated to operating at low power - generally in the same
range as legal CBers.
As for the antenna offer. No thanks. I operate 10-80 meters, and an
antenna for 100 meters just wouldn't work well on that broad a
spectrum of frequencies (and that is very basic ham radio
information).
Mike, k5wmg
Pipe Creek, Texas
Green cars, slow boats, big dogs, and summers off to write
Please do not print this e-mail unless it is completely necessary
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 12:30 PM, NE6V <NE6V@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> First off Mr.Goins,
>
> I do not make the antennas I only sell Amateur Radio Antennas. I'm sure
> when you went to the web site you saw very clearly my name is listed ONLY as
> a AMATEUR ANTENNA Distributor, I'm not involved in other aspects of their
> business. There are many "so called amateur antenna manufactures" which sell
> their products to various hobbyist. Example Force 12 has a 11 meter product
> line, Hygain does also. In this economy, how can any business man, close
> their eyes to potential business. How far will you take the "I'm a ham and
> HOLYER THAN THOU" routine? HRO Anaheim has two radio shack cb's for sale
> used, so do we stop buying from them....where do you draw the line?
> FYI, I'm a OO for the League and FCC, but the rules say very clearly, if
> it's not happening with in the US Amateur Radio Spectrum, I'm NOT TO GET
> INVOLVED. Meaning, if it doesn't concern what I'm to "monitor" then don't
> bother with it. So what I'm saying, it is not my business what those CBers
> are doing on there frequencies, I really don't care and honestly I don't
> think you should ...we have enough problems on the ham frequencies .
> Finally, in closing, Mr.Goins, yourself and anyone who has not owned one
> of these antennas, but is going to make statements negative statements and
> comments, are really showing a lack of intelligence, which really surprises
> me. In fact the comments are more in line with those 11 meter people rather
> than intelligent ham operators.
>
> TELL YOU WHAT PUT YOUR $$$ WHERE YOUR COMMENTS ARE. BUY ONE TRY IT FOR 30
> DAYS, IF YOU ARE NOT HAPPY, IF YOUR NOT SATISFIED RETURN IT FOR A FULL
> REFUND. THAT IS HOW CONFIDENT I'M ABOUT THESE ANTENNAS!! NOW DOES STEPPIR DO
> THAT, HY-GAIN, FORCE12, ANYONE....THIS OFFER IS GOOD UNTIL 04/11/2009.
>
> 73
> DE
> NE6V
> ARRL Los Angeles Section Affiliated Club Coordinator
> ARRL SW Division Cong.Dist.29 LAA
> ARRL Life Member
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Goins" <wmgoins@gmail.com>
> To: "NE6V" <NE6V@roadrunner.com>
> Cc: "Towertalk" <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 8:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Gizmotchy's
>
>
>> Am I the only one here who feels that making 1KW and 5KW antennas
>> primarily for CBers to use illegally is not okay? And before anyone
>> says they can be used at legal power, why then the need for 5 KW
>> gammas or the testimonies with CB skip names (and performance
>> distances) attached?
>>
>> Sorry, but I could never use one on 2 or 6.
>>
>> Mike, k5wmg
>> Pipe Creek, Texas
>> Green cars, slow boats, big dogs, and summers off to write
>> Please do not print this e-mail unless it is completely necessary
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 9:44 AM, NE6V <NE6V@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Group,
>>> Many have asked what's a Gizmotchy, so I thought I'd provide the url. So
>>> everyone can see for themselves.
>>>
>>> -At the present I have (6) 2 mtr models, 4 elements each, 1500 watt gama
>>> matches.
>>> For the Group here I'll sell them for $140.00 each INCLUDES SHIPPING. On
>>> the website they sell for 150.00 plus shipping. The ones I have are in
>>> factory boxes SEALED NEVER OPENED.
>>>
>>> -I also have about a dozen (12) 6 mtr 5 element Gizmo's. Also in FACTORY
>>> SEALED BOXES NEVER OPENED. Contact me for SPECIAL PRICING ON THE 6 MTR
>>> MODELS! Both the 6 and the 2 mtr models can seen at:
>>> http://gizmotchy.com/index.html
>>>
>>> YES I ACCEPT PAYPAL no FEE.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> de
>>> NE6V
>>>
>>> ARRL Los Angeles Section Affiliated Club Coordinator
>>> ARRL SW Division Cong.Dist.29 LAA
>>> ARRL Life Member
>>> (626)419-5167
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