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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Downhill anchors
From: "Michael Ryan" <mryan001@tampabay.rr.com>
Reply-to: "Tower and HF antenna construction topics." <towertalk@contesting.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:08:27 -0500
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I used 10ft "I" beams years ago for elevated anchors. Using the 60/40 rule,
with 6ft in the ground and in concrete and 4ft out of the ground. The corner
was cut off and holes drilled into the beam which eliminated the need for
equalizer plates if you wanted to go that way.  The corner was cut off with
a torch, but it was TOUGH drilling the 3/4" holes in the "I" beam to attach
turn buckles.  - Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gene Smar
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 5:00 PM
To: Tower and HF antenna construction topics.
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Downhill anchors

Ed:

     Besides extending the length of the downhill guy, you might consider 
using an elevated guy anchor.  This is a steel I-beam of appropriate 
dimensions embedded in enough concrete to resist overturning when the wind 
blows against the guy wire.  Its length would be tall enough so that enough 
is embedded in the concrete and enough is sticking out above ground so you 
can attach your guy wire anchoring devices.

     Rather than point you to other Hams' examples, I suggest you do a web 
search on elevated guy anchors and see what comes up.

     A final point:  you need an engineer to design this thing.  Don't rely 
on my flimsy description (note my use of the deliberately indeterminate 
adjective <enough>) or others that you may find on the Intergoogle.  If the 
anchor is done wrong, the tower will come down.

Caveat Amateur.


73 de
Gene Smar  AD3F


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed Swiderski, KU4BP" <ku4bp@triad.rr.com>
To: "Tower Talk" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:00 PM
Subject: [TowerTalk] Downhill anchors


>
> After seeing my planned tower location become literally washed away. A 
> flat
> area but considered a flood plane. (Got VERY flooded after weekend rain,
> almost a pond) I'm looking at putting my planned tower against my house. 
> The
> thing that I am being puzzled about is how the land slopes down quite a 
> bit
> away from the base. This is where one of the guy anchors will go. Is there
> some additional calculations that I need to do? I'm guessing that it is no
> more than 10 feet below where the base will be.
>
> I'm thinking that maybe I would have to keep the angles of the guys 
> constant
> and just extend the length to the anchor to compensate for the drop in 
> land,
> but I'm not sure. What I'm thinking is that if there is, say, 10 feet of
> drop. Using that and the angle required for the guys I can trig out the
> distance needed from the tower base. As I said, I'm guessing on what to 
> do.
> Am I on the right track with my theory or am I off base?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Ed Swiderski KU4BP
>
>
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