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Re: [TowerTalk] Hygain TH-6DX

To: garyschafer@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Hygain TH-6DX
From: "Rick Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
Reply-to: richard@karlquist.com, "Tower and HF antenna construction topics." <towertalk@contesting.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 18:28:14 -0700
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The dual driven element improves the pattern bandwidth of the TH7 over the
TH6.  It doesn't just improve SWR bandwidth.  See page 4-4 of the TH7
manual on the Hy-Gain web site.  You can see how F/B ratio holds
up across the band.

If I have my SteppIR set for CW and listen on phone, and then
I QSY the SteppIR to phone while listening to DX, I can hear
a noticable improvement in readability due to the pattern
improving.  If I tune just the driven element, the SWR
improves, but I don't hear the pattern getting better.
The SteppIR (at a given setting) is likely to be
more broadband than the TH6 due to the latter's traps.
If you only need 10, 15, and 20 meters, the TH7 is almost as good
as the SteppIR at a lower price point.  It makes sense
as a 2nd antenna for SO2R contesting.

Rick N6RK

Gary Schafer wrote:
> Rick,
>
> Why would the pattern be any worse off resonance on the TH6 than on the
> TH7?
>
> Thanks
> Gary  K4FMX
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:towertalk-
>> bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Rick Karlquist
>> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:38 PM
>> To: Tower and HF antenna construction topics.
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Hygain TH-6DX
>>
>> You can see the bad news:  choose from CW, low phone, or high phone.
>> Hope you don't need more than one of those segments :-(
>> Also, you can't "cheat" the SWR curves by using a tuner.
>> The pattern will significantly degrade at the frequencies
>> where the SWR is high.  This is why, IMHO, given a choice
>> between a TH6 and TH7, picking the TH7 is a no brainer.
>> I used to have a TH6.  I would never go back to that.
>>
>> Rick N6RK
>>
>>
>> aschnabolk wrote:
>> > Look at Page 2 of 7 in the "TH6DXX" (last one listed) Curves are
>> there. As
>> > I
>> > remember mine when it was up, curves were similar.
>> > 73
>> > Al W2OIB
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "JACK" <K4WSB@ARRL.NET>
>> > To: "Tower and HF antenna construction topics."
>> <towertalk@contesting.com>
>> > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 6:59 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Hygain TH-6DX
>> >
>> >
>> >> The manual with swr curves is on the Hy Gain site under other manuals
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> At 06:49 PM 4/1/2010, you wrote:
>> >>>I have opted to go the TH-6DX route due to time constraints on
>> getting
>> >>>help
>> >>>and also due to the fact that I cannot afford what it would take to
>> get
>> >>>all
>> >>>the other parts to make it a whole antenna at this time.
>> >>>
>> >>>I will have to budget for that for next year possibly or later the
>> way
>> >>> my
>> >>>economy is looking here.
>> >>>
>> >>>Does anyone have what would be considered a normal looking swr curve
>> for
>> >>>the
>> >>>TH-6DX? The TH-7DX manual has one but the manual for the TH-6DX does
>> >>> not.
>> >>>I
>> >>>have looked on Google and the only thing it comes up with is
>> something
>> >>>called a 'torrent download' whatever that is.
>> >>>
>> >>>Anyway can't find one does anyone happen to have one or have a copy
>> of
>> >>> the
>> >>>May 1970 Ham Radio Magazine. Someone told me there is a curve it in
>> on
>> >>> the
>> >>>TH-6DX.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Thanks
>> >>>Bob AD5VJ
>> >>
>> >>
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