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Re: [TowerTalk] book Tribander comparison test

To: "'Gene Fuller'" <w2lu@rochester.rr.com>, "'Mike'" <noddy1211@sbcglobal.net>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] book Tribander comparison test
From: "Doug Turnbull" <turnbull@net1.ie>
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:55:27 -0000
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The trouble with LP antennas and some multiband Yagis is that they have a
very high wind load.   The SteppIR avoids this with fewer elements.
SteppIR, maintenance has been a problem for some and not for many others.
I have found this interesting thread and appreciate the different
viewpoints.

                      73 Doug EI2CN

-----Original Message-----
From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gene Fuller
Sent: 25 February 2011 02:37
To: Mike; towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] book Tribander comparison test

This thread is really running thin. That being said, do you really think 
that given the same height and feed line loss you could tell one or two db 
difference between antennas. At that point it's more a matter of operator 
skill!. I would still take the simplicity of a good LP. For that matter you 
could stack a pair of T-10's for the price of a single SteppIR, or even a 
TH-11, including the cost of a side gate - or spend your money on getting 
the T-10 higher.
Gene / W2LU

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike" <noddy1211@sbcglobal.net>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] book Tribander comparison test


> You are dead right it is a "tunable "monobander" and in a classification 
> of
> its own really, so nothing to compare with.  Even on 20 meters a three
> element Steppir has hardly has anything to compare with as most people
> putting up a monobander for that band would choose a 4 t 6 element 
> antenna.
> But it does work better than a 3 element tribander on 20 meters because it
> tunes the whole band without traps, most short tri-banders are a 
> compromise
> on 20 meters anyway.
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> > It would be, if they had motors to vary the distance between the
> > elements
>
> Nonsense!  Some 30+ years ago W2PV showed that a monobander was a
> monobander no matter what the element spacing as long as the elements
> are properly tuned for their place in the array.  Gain is a product
> of boom length as long as there are "enough" elements for the length.
>
> Tapered spacing only effects the bandwidth and feed impedance of the
> antenna and with a SteppIR bandwidth has no meaning since the antenna
> is constantly retuned for the operating frequency.
>
> SteppIR is a tunable "monobander" with a fixed length boom - other
> than the optional fixed length elements for six meters, a SteppIR
> has no traps or parasitic elements whose sole purpose is to allow
> operation on more than one frequency at a time.
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 2/24/2011 6:57 PM, Dick NY1E wrote:
>>   " As far as the SteppIR, it's a monobander for all  practical 
>> purposes."
>>
>> It would be, if they had motors to vary the distance between the
> elements... otherwise its a tribander (ok 5 bander) with a good swr!
>>
>> Dick NY1E
>> www.ny1e.com
>>
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