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Re: [TowerTalk] possible 15M EME ES5TV to K3LR QSO on April 27.

To: 'Tõnno Vähk' <tonno.vahk@gmail.com>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] possible 15M EME ES5TV to K3LR QSO on April 27.
From: "Tim Duffy" <k3lr@k3lr.com>
Reply-to: k3lr@k3lr.com
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 09:58:33 -0600
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Hello Tonno,

If April 27th works out - I can be very ready to try this. That is a good
open day for me. Maybe Gerald, K5GW can double check path loss calculations
for EME on 21 MHz at that day/time for both QTH's to see if this 10 minute
window might work on April 27 15 meter EME QSO according to his program. 

We can have a multi Skype session web link going on April 27 - so guys can
see both ES5TV and K3LR ends live during the experiment EME time.

The coordinates on the K3LR QRZ.com page have 1 second accuracy for the 15
meter tower. At K3LR, the four high OWA long boom stacked array has modeled
gain (with ground) of 21.9 dBd at a take of angle of 4.5 degrees. The feed
system is very low loss - 200 feet of 1 5/8" Andrews Heliax, so most of the
1500 watts in the shack makes it to the antenna port power divider mounted
on the tower at the mid point of the array.

I do not know if 15 meter EME be done during daylight hours when the band is
likely to be open. Others may know that answer.

73,
Tim K3LR

-----Original Message-----
From: Tõnno Vähk [mailto:tonno.vahk@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 8:57 AM
To: k3lr@k3lr.com; towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] 15m monster finally up - EME and Video

Thanks Tim,

I got a good program suggestion - MoonSked by GM4JJJ.

Not being very familiar with this stuff yet I can calculate windows for us.

Basically I am looking for moments when the moon is from 0 to 5 degrees in
both locations and both are in darkness. It is not an easy criteria to
fulfill.

The first slight chance opens on April 27 from ca 0210 to 0220z while I have
sunrise on 0230z already which might mean the band is already open at 0210.

In summer we almost don't have common darkness so I guess that rules summer
out. And now looking all throughout the year there is no other time.

So we only seem to have a 10 minute window in the whole year, Tim!:)

Is my logic correct here? Or could it be that it could be done during
sunlight? In the sunspot minimum perhaps?

73
tonno

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Duffy [mailto:k3lr@k3lr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 11:50 PM
To: 'Tõnno Vähk'; towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] 15m monster finally up - EME and Video

Hello Tonno!

Congrats on a very FB installation! Your EME video is outstanding!

If the moon times line up with you, there is enough gain with the 15 meter
28 element array at K3LR to do EME. I'd love to try a two way 15 meter QSO.

http://www.k3lr.com/2007/photos/15mtower.jpg

http://www.k3lr.com/2011/CQ11CW/IMG_3300.jpg

73,
Tim K3LR

-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tõnno
Vähk
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 7:49 AM
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 15m monster finally up - EME and Video


Now all I have to do is to find someone interested in attempting real 15m
EME QSO (anyone done that before?) who would have coinciding sunset/sunrise
and high gain antenna on 15m.

73

Tonno

ES5TV

 


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