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Re: [TowerTalk] 6 meter antenna comparisons

To: "Crownhaven" <crownhaven@bellsouth.net>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 6 meter antenna comparisons
From: "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@att.net>
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 20:56:46 -0400
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I have 96 countries on 6 using a 4 element yagi at 28 ft. Only need a few islands in Caribbean and Bolivia in SA.

I have worked JAs and FK8CP and New Zealand.

When the prop is there, it is there. My biggest problem is trying to reach into Israel and countries in that same region. Maybe a longer boom yagi with 2 more elements would help. Most of EU is pretty weak on this antenna but still workable, they are just out of the noise though. Doesn't matter, weak or strong, worked is worked.

I transmit 600 watts. Radio is FT-2000

I am in SW Florida and so TEP to SA is common.

I guess what I am saying is that either of your yagis would be a lot better than what I am using, just as a point of reference.



Best Regards
Dan Schaaf
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-----Original Message----- From: Crownhaven
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 8:43 PM
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 6 meter antenna comparisons

When you say weak ones, you need to tell us WHICH weak ones.  Weak E,
weak F2, weak tropo or weak ground wave.  I find anything works on E.
The band is open or it isn't.  F2, what is that?????  Oh, I remember.
Another lifetime.  I think either will handle F2 but an amp would help
quite a bit.  I guess if you had tropo on six it probably wouldn't
matter much if you were on the receiving end.  In terms of contesting
over ground, the bigger the better.  I had an RA with a 17' boom that
handled DX quite nicely, F2.  I thought bigger was going to be better
and put up a C3i C7-50 with 29' boom.  I can really tell the difference
with this antenna when I'm contesting, working guys way out there over
the ground, especially the rovers. In terms of F2, my buddies around
here with 12' booms work all the F2 I do.

Your mileage may vary.

I would probably consider what effect the boom might have on my rotor.
Since I put up the big C3i, I lost some teeth on my T2X.

Steve, N4JQQ


On 4/13/2013 6:19 PM, Steve K7AWB wrote:
I have a choice of two 6-meter yagis to put up at the 112 foot level on my tower. A Force 12 5BA ( 5 band, 15 element HF) goes at the tower top at 103 feet and above it about 9 feet will be the 6-meter yagi.

I have both a used M2 6M7 (7 element) and a Cushcraft 617-6B (6 element). I don't want to use my 6M7JHV because I am saving it for an array latter.

The M2 6M7 is rated at 10.5 dbd while the Cushcraft is rated at 14 dbd in the manual although, in the VE7BQH list, is shows at 10.17 dbd and I take company specifications with a grain of salt. The Cushcraft has a 34 foot boom while the M2 has a 26.5 foot boom; both weigh about the same. The VE7BQH list is at: http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj/6mTable.htm

Anyone have any opinions on which one to use? The purpose of the antenna is to work the "weak" ones.


73
Steve Sala
K7AWB
DN17es
Nine Mile Falls, WA
491 ARRL approved 6-meter grids confirmed

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