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Re: [TowerTalk] How high is enough

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] How high is enough
From: <john@kk9a.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 00:06:15 -0000
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Perhaps W3LPL can elaborate.  100ft is probably a perfect height for 20m 
however on 10m there is an almost 30dB null at 10 degrees.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "chetmoore" <chetmoore@cox.net>
To: <john@kk9a.com>; <TowerTalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 15:03
Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] How high is enough


I seem to remember somewhere, possibly in the early pvrc contest college
video  tape series) where W3LPL said  for contesting, if you can only have
ONE tower, make it a 100 footer. Your beam or beams will work well and the
low band wire antennas you hang below it at 90 feet will be high enough
To work well also.   Works for me !!!

73

Chet N4FX


-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
john@kk9a.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:13 AM
To: TowerTalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] How high is enough

An antenna at 50' will work. Your subject "How high is enough" suggest that
you are looking for some compromise between performance and tower height.
Only you can make that decision. Certainly you could install a 70'
tower instead of a 50' one on your small lot if you really wanted to. K9YC
suggested reading the ARRL Antenna Book. This is a great suggestion! If you
can find W2PV's (sk) yagi book there is also a lot of information there
regarding yagi radiation angle relative to height. Regarding the question is
a SteppIR 80m dipole better than a wire one, the answer is again not simple.
A true full size horizontal dipole at the same height should be more
efficient than a loaded one, however you cannot turn the wire dipole or
adjust it for the segment of the band that you are using.

John KK9A


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Subject: [TowerTalk] How high is enough
From: "Jim in Waco wb5oxq" <wb5oxq_1@grandecom.net>
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:46:28 -0500


When choosing a height for a beam is 1/4 wave above ground at the lowest
frequency enough?  1/2 wave?  I see Force 12 rating the gain on their beams
at 74'1".
Why that height?  At 20 meters is 100' a lot better than say 60'?  I am
talking about relatively flat terrain.  I see Stepp-ir makes a beam that
even has a 80 meter dipole in it.  Would that workmuch better on 80 than a
wire dipole at an equal height?  I have never had enough land to put upmore
than 50' bit nest year I might have over an acre and be able to go much
higher.  I just wonder how high when you spend more to go higher than it is
worth?  If I had the room for a wire dipole to run any direction, what would
be the best choice from central Texas considering being in the center of the
country east/west wise?  I want to get the best bang for my buck!  wb5oxq

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