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Re: [TowerTalk] Phillystran Cable Question

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Phillystran Cable Question
From: Cqtestk4xs@aol.com
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:00:43 -0500 (EST)
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The old style (1970's and 1980's) was meant to be used with potted  ends.  
The newer stuff is made to be used with the specially made PLP  grips.
 
People don't always follow the instructions from the factory on  many 
things relating to towers....reusing guy grips, going higher than they  should 
with a tower, etc.  Many times these experiments work, until  they don't one 
day  Check my info with the manufacturer, Phlly Rope Works  for the scoop on 
the old style stuff.
 
Bill K4XS
 
 
In a message dated 2/26/2014 5:50:19 A.M. Coordinated Universal Time,  
K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net writes:

On  2/25/2014 10:15 PM, Cqtestk4xs@aol.com wrote:
> I had a chance to pick  up some of the old style Philly without ends.   
This
> stuff  needs to have "potted" ends.  Plan on spending at least $35 for   
each
> "empty" end and at least $70 for the resin potting  compound.  You will
> find the cost is prohibitive unless you are  pouring a dozen or so ends, 
since
> the potting mix has to mixed all at  once.

With out ends?  All the Phillystran I have which is all the  guys, use 
only a plastic cap, RTVd in place.  14 years and no  problems. For the 
smaller stuff (less than 1/4" use the cable clamps with  the "U" bolt on 
the dead side. Do not over tighten. Typical is 4 cable  clamps and 1 end 
cap  Because it's the jacket that compresses, not  much strength is lost 
compared to cable clamps on wire.  For anything  other than small loads, 
I'd use 1/4" and larger with big grips and cap the  ends by RTVing the 
caps. Don't forget to use the proper size thimble and  guy brackets. 
Don't just wrap it around a tower leg.  The guy bracket  removes the side 
stress from the tower legs.

I've not seen any,  including the older phillystran that couldn't be used 
with big grips and  capping the ends. Big grips should be installed with 
the Phillystran under  working tension. IE 1/4" at 440# and 5/16ths at 600#

Kevlar does not  stand up well to moisture, so if the cable is old and 
the ends were not  capped, I'd cut at least several feet off each end. 
Hopefully it hasn't  been stored outside and uncapped. In that case you 
might need to cut back  quite a bit and I don't know how to tell.  The 
Kevlar core is made up  of many very fine strands. If they are still 
flexible and strong, I'd  think they are good.

On the 45G the bottom two tier I use HTPG40001 ant  the top tier is 
HTPG67001.  Texas towers has end caps for all sizes  and I'd assume Davis 
does as well.

73

Roger  (K8RI)

>   
> The factory can give you the  details.
>   
> Bill K4XS/KH7XS
>    
>   
> In a message dated 2/26/2014 2:38:46 A.M.  Coordinated Universal Time,
> Gunsrus1942@Comcast.net  writes:
>
> I'm  going to be using Phillystran Cable .22 size  and am not able to use
> the  "Big Grip" on a couple of the ends  & was wondering if a standard
> "guy  wire clamp" can be used  and what is the recommended configuration?
> It  appears that DX  Engr. recommends that guy wire clamps only be used on
> .17  and  smaller.
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> 73, Tom   W1ALZ
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