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Re: [TowerTalk] 30 foot Rohn 25G calculations

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 30 foot Rohn 25G calculations
From: Lizeth Norman <normanlizeth@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 13:04:36 -0500
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First, the object is to find something LIKE what you want to do. Think
40' Rohn 25 GUYED rated at 130 MPH rev G. The engineering is MOSTLY
done by the manufacturer.

Base and guy piers are detailed in the literature available on the web.

I personally guarantee that walking into an engineer's office with
homebrew plans will elicit a few verses of the "Mickey Mouse club"
theme song.

On the other hand, asking an engineer to customize a manufacturer's
cookie cutter plan DOWNWARDS will work every time.

As an aside: cruising the property in the area, I saw a door tag on a
"for sale" home. The HOA ticketed the house for a slew of non
agreement changes. Looks like 10K to fix. I called the agent and she
said it closed a week ago. Bad news for the new owners. Lovely
housewarming gift.

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:27 PM, W2RU - Bud Hippisley
<W2RU@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 12, 2015, at 9:58 10AM, bcarling@cfl.rr.com wrote:
>> I am putting together a permit application with my city which requires 
>> certfication for 139 mph
>> for three second gusts as in TI-222 spec. Also steady 100 or 110 mph I think.
>> We are making a 30 foot Rohn 25G tower according to the Rohn specification 
>> with  4 foot
>> cube base of concrete with no guys.
>
> I’m not sure I understand what you’re hoping to find.
>
> My 4-year old Rohn catalog makes it VERY clear that 30 feet of Rohn 25 can 
> hold only 1.7 sq. ft. of added antenna when the environment is 90 mph 
> (ANSI/EIA-222 Rev. E) and NO ICE.  (For areas that experience icing, Rohn 25 
> is specified by the manufacturer at ZERO sq. ft. of additional antenna load!) 
>  From your e-mail address and the wind speeds you mention, I’m going to guess 
> you’re in Central Florida, and I daresay a 90-mph Rohn EIA-222 Rev. E 
> specification is not going to be adequate for your city.
>
> Nowhere in your posting do you mention what total antenna, rotator, feedline, 
> etc. wind surface area or wind load you anticipate putting on this tower.  
> But my guess is that NO freestanding 30’ Rohn 25 tower is going to make the 
> grade.
>
> Also, you fail to mention which version of TIA/EIA-222 your city is using.  
> The latest I’m aware of is Rev. G — a substantial revision from previous 
> methods of specifying wind loading.
>
> Bud, W2RU
>
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