I have a C3 on my tower that I purchased back in 1996, still going
strong, no issues.
Rich - N5ZC
On 10/4/2015 7:30 AM, John Langdon wrote:
The C3 and C3S both had a very high performance to wind load ratio, and were
good for 20+ years with no maintenance required.
73 John N5CQ
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From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Herbert
Schoenbohm
Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2015 7:57 PM
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] JK Navassa-5
IMHO for a high performance well built antenna the Force 12 C3S was great for
the price, easy to assemble, and USPS shippable with 3 elements on 15 and 10.
With pre-drilled holes for the element lengths it was also great for
DX-Peditions.
Herb, KV4FZ
On 11/27/2014 6:37 PM, Ken Garg wrote:
Yeah, I did not jump in to argue and also why would you spend $1000 for an antenna and use
RG58!! We can definitely add on the website “RG213” of good quality used if it
makes folks not get confused.
The swr curves shown are for “reference” purposes only. An swr curve at QTH “A” will be be
slightly different at QTH “B” depending on height above ground, surrounding structures, other antennas, etc
etc.
The analyzer is a RigExpert and it seems to be working fine. Maybe you should
ask RigExpert why there seems to be a small drop at the measured edges. The
image was taken from the Antscope software.
If someone doesn’t like what data is presented, then they have a lovely choice, go buy
another manufacturer’s products. There are many good choices out there. Its a healthy
competition.
I can only tell you that so far, I have not come to this forum even once to
announce or talk about our antennas (i just signed up today to towertalk). Our
customers come and buy and evangelize our antennas because they get exactly
whats claimed as specs by us and also they love it because of the mechanical
construction and high-quality parts used.
Thanks for all the input. Happy Thanksgiving.
On Nov 27, 2014, at 4:38 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV<lists@subich.com> wrote:
There is not much significant difference
It depends ... perhaps with quality RG-213 where loss is ~1 dB/100'
at 30 MHz the difference is not significant. However, if you're using
RG58 with nearly 3 dB/100' at 30 MHz even a non-resonant antenna
begins to look good. Your web page does not specify the type of coax
and loss thus "at the feedpoint" measurements are more appropriate.
I do not trust the presented curves in any case - each band shows an
anomalous drop in the last few measurement points. This behavior
would indicate a faulty measurement device, inappropriate date
manipulation (smoothing/averaging), or some potential loss/resonance in the
system.
73,
... Joe, W4TV
On 2014-11-27 2:30 PM, Ken Garg wrote:
Joe,
All data is available at 50ft, 100ft etc. There is not much significant difference
thats smoke and mirrors. The reason to show 100ft was taking into account an average
ham shack with a coax run. Do you think there will be a significant difference in swr
between 100ft and 50ft? Ot do you think that our coax has so much loss that we
don’t see swr? Not sure of your point. If measured swr at the feed point is
1.28:1, then the measured swr at 100ft will be approx 1.2:1 using RG213 as a coax.
The goal was to show a freespace design vs actual measured for the average ham
on a simple page. If someone needs more details, they can always ask in an
email through the website.
Thanks,
Ken
On Nov 27, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV<lists@subich.com> wrote:
The swr curves for this antenna assembled out of the box at 36ft is
presented here ..http://jkantennas.com/navassa-5-data.html
If the antenna is at 36 feet, why are you using 100 feet of coax for
the measurement? Why not use 50 feet or calibrate out the losses and
present true "at the antenna" measurements?
73,
... Joe, W4TV
On 2014-11-27 12:34 PM, Ken Garg wrote:
Happy Thanksgiving all !!
A good friend alerted me to a posting by K9OM. His post starts as follows ..”Correct me if
I’m wrong …”. Well, Dick you are WRONG.
The JK Navassa-5 comes pre-drilled, pre-cuts tips from the factory.
The user just needs to assemble the antenna. These antennas are made
of the best quality hardware and rated heavy-duty. There are many
other quality manufacturers in the Yagi antenna space and the Hams
are left to some good choices. If you like the JK construction with
machined saddles, and quality hardware, including the “mast plate"
all available for $1185 compared to others, then you will buy this
antenna. The JK construction and mechanical robustness speaks for
itself and folks that have it will speak to it. The swr curves for
this antenna assembled out of the box at 36ft is presented here
..http://jkantennas.com/navassa-5-data.html
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