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Re: [TowerTalk] Modeling question - for the experts!

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Modeling question - for the experts!
From: <john@kk9a.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 21:39:21 -0400
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So we agree that the 15m SWR of a 40m dipole will be over 2:1.  If it is not
high impedance (100+ ohms) as I stated causing this, what is?

John KK9A


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Subject:        Re: [TowerTalk] Modeling question - for the experts!
From:   jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date:   Thu, 2 Jun 2016 15:52:34 -0700


On 6/2/16 8:17 AM, john@kk9a.com wrote:
A full sized 40m dipole will have a high impedance on 15m and the SWR will
be over 2:1 so the 2.7:1 SWR on your beam indicates that it is resonant.
Is it hurting anything?  Your model should show the interaction using the
stock 40M4LLDD antenna and spacing to other Yagis.


I don't think the Z is high..

I thought that 40m dipoles are close to resonant on 15m... 3/2 wavelength
(21 Mhz vs 7 MHz)

A quick model shows the SWR around 21 MHz of a dipole 1" aluminum, resonant
at 7.15 MHz, 30 m above the (moderate) ground, is 2.4:1 at 21.8 and 22.33
Mhz (lowest is 2.2:1 at 22.1)


on 40m, the lowest VSWR is 1.44:1 at 7.15 and it's pretty broad: 1.7:1 at 7
MHz, 1.75 at 7.3MHz

If you want a dual band 40/15, you might tune the dipole a little low (since
the BW on 15 is narrower than on 40)

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