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Re: [TowerTalk] AVA7-50 cable length

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] AVA7-50 cable length
From: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Reply-to: jim@audiosystemsgroup.com
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 14:53:04 -0700
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Actually, velocity factor is usually pretty accurate for the value at VHF, where VF has reached its asymptotic value. More to the point -- any of these numbers are going to be within a few percent, and if you're trying to estimate how much coax is on a spool or in a big coil, that's plenty close enough. :)

A capacitance meter assumes a lumped capacitance -- that is, one that is physically small enough that there are no wavelength effects. They begin to show up at roughly 1/20 wavelength, so If the cable you're trying to measure is longer than about 1/10 of a wavelength at the frequency of the measurement, the error will be quite significant because you're measuring a transmission line, not a capacitor.

73, Jim K9YC

On Sat,9/10/2016 2:16 PM, Zivney, Terry wrote:
TDR and/or stub measurement assumes you know  velocity factor. The manufacturer does not 
specify velocity factor to the same precision that they use for capacitance.  Hence, a 
low frequency measurement of capacitance will probably be as good as "assuming" 
a velocity factor.


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