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Re: [TowerTalk] US Tower price increase

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] US Tower price increase
From: Hans Hammarquist via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Hans Hammarquist <hanslg@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 23:43:46 -0500
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Hi Charlie,

Sorry, I have to add a little here.

The ISO-9000 is nothing mystic and to be ISO-9000 is not that hard if you 
follow the ISO-9000 route.

I guess that the "government" supplies the necessary knowledge/template for the 
guy to be called "ISO-9000" compliant.

Don't ask me how I know. ;-)

Hans - N2JFS


-----Original Message-----
From: charlie <charlie@thegallos.com>
To: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
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Sent: Tue, Jan 3, 2017 4:26 pm
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] US Tower price increase


<snip>
> That's right out of the Federal Acquisition Regulations: you must give
> the US government the "best price" for the item - no special deals for
> other customers. No "loss-leaders"
>
> THere has to be a non-trivial (e.g. not just a model number change)
> difference to justify the difference in prices between a "consumer" or
> "industry" price and the "government price".
>
> Typically, the difference is accounted for in things like documentation,
> shipping containers, etc.
<snip>

Of course there are always ways around things like this.

My favorite story wasn't on pricing, but on ISO-9000. There was a shop up
(if I remember right) in CT, and he mad a sonar part for the Trident. He
personally guaranteed the part to spec, the thing is, it seems he was the
ONLY person who could make them work right
The Govt came in and said "You must be ISO-9000 compliant" His reply?
"no". "But you have to, if you don't we can't buy from you!" "That's
fine"

They tried making them, no good, they tried having others make them, no
good. When they got to the point there was a Trident sitting there
waiting to be launched, no spares etc, they went back to him. "We need
more" "Fine, I'll supply them like I always have" "But you have to be
ISO-9000 compliant!" "No". I gather the Government eventually backed down


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