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Re: [TowerTalk] Learning from Tragedies

To: john@kk9a.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Learning from Tragedies
From: Jim W7RY <jimw7ry@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 10:19:59 -0500
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direct link to the go fund me page:

https://www.gofundme.com/waddellfamily

73
Jim W7RY


On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 8:05 AM <john@kk9a.com> wrote:

> This is terrible a tragedy for the young man and his large family. There is
> a GoFundMe link in the story:
>
> http://wirelessestimator.com/articles/2018/fund-set-up-for-mastec-constructi
> on-manager-who-died-in-weekend-tower-collapse/
> <http://wirelessestimator.com/articles/2018/fund-set-up-for-mastec-construction-manager-who-died-in-weekend-tower-collapse/>
>
> The story indicated that a shackle broke, it would be nice to know why as
> they seem pretty rugged. I have no experience erecting Rohn 25G but with my
> Rohn 55 and 65 I have never felt unsafe building it until the next guy
> level
> with the exception of the first sections since I use tapered pier pin
> bases.
> My temporary guys were EHS and I left them attached for a while as I
> continued to build. I would imagine that professional tower riggers just
> build up to the next guy level however there is certainly nothing wrong
> with
> being extra cautious using rope guys as N1UR described, especially if tower
> movement is a concern.
>
> John KK9A
>
>
> From:   "Edward Sawyer" N1UR
> Date:   Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:26:29 -0400
>
> I am sure that many of you have heard about a recent tower climbing death
> installing 70ft of Rohn 25G.  The details of the story made me think about
> my tower building processes and I am wondering how they compare with
> others.
>
> I personally have 70 ft of Rohn 45G and it is guyed at 35 and 70 ft.  I am
> not sure I would be comfortable with 70 ft of 25G guyed only at 35 and 70
> ft.  What are the thoughts of the group here?
>
>
>
> When I build towers, even with a fixed based set in concrete, I rope guy
> each section after 20 ft.  So when I am putting the 30 ft section on, my
> standing tower is rope guyed at 20 ft.  As I would be putting the first set
> of guys at 35 ft (if it were 45G), I would be looking at rope guys coming
> down from 20 ft and 30 ft levels and then would have the 35 ft guys
> available to me as I am clipped in at the 30 ft level after gin poling up
> the section with the 35 ft guys.
>
>
>
> Secure the permanent set of guys and then drop all the ropes.  My next
> section 40 - 50 ft would have rope guys I can access at 40 ft and those
> would be secured at the 50 ft level before moving the gin pole up to 50 ft
> and so on.
>
>
>
> It does not appear that the above method was used in this tragedy from the
> descriptions.  Obviously, if there was a catastrophic guy anchor failure,
> the above would not prevent that.  There is no mention of the guy anchors
> used.  Hopefully if it's a 2 guys system, earth anchors were not the
> choice.
>
>
>
> In the interest of honoring the event, I though a discussion of the tower
> stacking techniques of the community might be in order.
>
>
>
> Ed  N1UR
>
>
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