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To: Tim Duffy <k3lr@k3lr.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Have you had success with ....
From: Don Havlicek <n8de@thepoint.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2019 20:57:08 -0400
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To keep critters out of the boom, put a "foam" ball in the ends of the boom.  
Use one of porous material so moisture can get out, but critters cannot get in!
73
Don
N8DE

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On Jul 20, 2019 8:17 PM, Tim Duffy <k3lr@k3lr.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Tom:
>
> I have 26 Yagi's in the air here and my experience is the same as yours. No 
> end caps ever on the elements and no problems. Also no water related 
> corrosion issues.
>
> Every time I am involved in a takedown of a Yagi for a friend ham - and there 
> are caps - there is water inside.
>
> Condensation is a real problem and taking steps to deal with it (dry) slows 
> the aluminum corrosion process.
>
> I have never used rope in elements - no breakage here.
>
> I must be lucky :-)
>
> 73
> Tim K3LR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
> Tom_N2SR via TowerTalk
> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 8:09 PM
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Have you had success with ....
>
> Helped a friend take down his old Mosley CL-33 (being replaced with a C19XR 
> soon).  I rigged the antenna to lower it, and when I pulled the U bolts, the 
> antenna wanted to flip backwards - because of the water in the boom - because 
> he put the caps on.  
> All of my antennas (Force 12) have no caps on the boom nor elements.  Have 
> had zero problems with spiders, bees, wasps or other flying creatures.  
> 73, 
> Tom, N2SR
>
>     On Saturday, July 20, 2019, 12:42:44 PM EDT, Tim Duffy <k3lr@k3lr.com> 
> wrote:  
>
> Hello Bob:
>
> How do you get the water out of your elements with caps on them?
>
> 73
> Tim K3LR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bob 
> Shohet, KQ2M
> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 12:31 PM
> To: john@kk9a.com; towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Have you had success with ....
>
> My experiences have been different from KK9A.  Open element tips with nothing 
> capping them, is just an invitation for spiders, bees, wasps and other flying 
> creatures to nest in them (extremely common here in the deep forests of 
> Western CT) and their nests block the drainage of water, trapping it inside 
> for it to freeze and split the element.  Or, the water stays inside and the 
> weight builds up adding to the potential weight and torque imbalances in a 
> heavy wind.
>
> Prior to my living here I really didn’t think that spiders would want to 
> climb much less nest in anything 130’ off the ground.  I was wrong.  And the 
> bee/wasp/flying insect issue was a problem with element tips too.  Now I 
> don’t ever have a problem with them in my antennas because they can’t get in 
> because I cap and seal the ends.  Antennas that use traps have an even bigger 
> potential problem – there have been many past posts on this reflector on the 
> topic of trap failures because of nesting insects. 
>
> CAUTION:  Different qth’s have different climates and different critters.  Be 
> sure that you know what you are dealing with BEFORE you make a choice to not 
> cap your element tips.
>
> 73
>
> Bob KQ2M
>
> From: john@kk9a.com 
> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 11:54 AM
> To: towertalk@contesting.com 
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Have you had success with ....
>
> I have been using NO end caps for decades. There is nothing to fall  
> off and nothing to seal water inside the boom or elements which would  
> cause severe damage.
>
> John KK9A
>
>
> Charles Morrison N1RR wrote:
>
> Have you had success with:
> Hot glue gun to attach vinyl end caps to aluminum yagi tips or boom ends ?
>
> -Charlie N1RR
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