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Re: [TowerTalk] DC grounding of parasitic eles with insulators ?

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] DC grounding of parasitic eles with insulators ?
From: K9MA <k9ma@sdellington.us>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 14:40:40 -0500
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Does anyone know of a modern NEC-designed yagi that does NOT use isolated elements? Perhaps there is some software that can accurately model the effect of the boom, but I suspect it's way out of the price range of the designers of amateur antennas. I know NEC4 is better than NEC3, but still has problems with very closely spaced wires.

I'd expect the water to pretty effectively bleed off rain static, but I don't know about snow. This will be my first winter with isolated elements.

73,
Scott K9MA

On 10/28/2019 13:58, john@kk9a.com wrote:
Like most modern day contest stations, I built my Yagis with insulated elements and direct feed. According to W8JI's site, grounding the elements makes little difference in precipitation static. https://www.w8ji.com/pecipitation_static.htm ; I have not seen any issues using them and as a plus it makes modeling easier.


John KK9A


K9MA wrote:

The reason the parasitic elements are isolated from the boom is that the
boom would detune them. AFAIK, no one has figured out a way to model
elements shorted to a boom, and experimentally tuning an antenna is
expensive.

I can think of 3 reasons to connect the elements to the boom:

1. Bleed rain/snow static
2. Protect the insulators in case of a nearby lightning strike
3. Protect the DE balun when the tower is shunt fed

A 1 megohm resistor would take care of number 1. An RF choke might take
care of number 2 without detuning the parasitics.  If you shunt feed the
tower and don't have something like a hairpin match on the DE, a choke
ala N9NB's recent QST article is required. (This is sort of the opposite
of a common mode choke.)

That said, i recently put up a JK Mid-Tri, which has all the elements
isolated. Since I shunt feed the tower, I put the N9NB choke on the
driven elements. (And the same on the D40 above the beam.) I didn't
think of putting the bleed resistors on the parasitics. I don't think
rain will be a problem, but we'll see about snow static. If a lightning
strike blows up some insulators, I'll probably have bigger problems.

73,
Scott K9MA

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