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[TowerTalk] 65G "Look-Alike" Tower

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Subject: [TowerTalk] 65G "Look-Alike" Tower
From: Byron Tatum <bjtatum1@att.net>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2021 15:37:17 +0000 (UTC)
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For information and a strength opinion-    I posted recently about a tower in 
10' sections that appears as 65G but has some differences. On initial 
inspection this tower appeared identical to 65G except that the flanges were 
0.5" thick (65G has 0.625" thick flanges), the flanges were rotated 45 degrees 
from 65G orientation and the flanges were simply placed against bottom end of 
leg and welded (65G flanges are punched out and slid over the legs, then welded 
at top and small weld at bottom inside of flange). The flanges on this unknown 
tower have a drain hole in center, some drain holes are about 5/8" and others 
are about 7/8" roughly.
    The unknown tower has the same 5/8" zig-zag bracing as 65G, same square 
dimensions on flanges and same bolt sizes (4 of 5/8" size bolts per flange).
    Upon closer inspection I found this unknown tower has 2.0" OD tubing for 
legs (65G has 1.9" OD pipe). Both towers have a 0.15" wall thickness on legs. I 
plan to install around 65' of this tower self-supporting using Rohn base plans 
as called out for in their 65G self-supporting catalog. On the 10' section that 
will be concreted in ground I went ahead and cut the flanges off so that I 
could insure the legs sink down in sand bottom of hole to provide good 
drainage. That allowed me to examine legs and measure wall thickness.
    I found out that this unknown tower has a slightly larger triangle 
dimension than 65G. I have a pair of 65G rotor shelves (that fit tightly in 
65G) that are built similar to how the 45G/55G ones are, with a plate having a 
pair of U-bolts to butt up against the tower leg. These shelves when installed 
inside tower and centered have a 1/8" gap between vertical plates (for U-bolt 
pair) and tower leg outside surface. I am making spacers to go in these gaps. 
Even with larger diameter legs (2.0" on this tower versus 65G's 1.9") there are 
1/8" gaps in rotor shelf fit.    With a slightly larger leg diameter (2.0") and 
the slightly larger triangle dimension I am curious if that gives this tower a 
little bit more added strength versus if it was identical in spacings /leg size 
as 65G? I realize that the 65G having thicker flanges and being that they are 
punched out, slid over leg and welded in two places is a stronger design. I 
just wanted to ask readers here that have mechanical knowledge how they feel 
about this unknown tower as compared to 65G in my intended self-supporting use? 
I am not going to load the tower excessively in my opinion, but somewhat 
heavily as my plans are to put a 7 ele 6 meter LFA and a small 10/12 meter yagi 
on it. I am making 3 new "spider" pieces to allow my 65G top bearing plate to 
fit this tower; it has 3 pieces that bolt to central plate and go out to 
flanges.     Thanks for any evaluations/opinions on this.Byron W5FH 
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