[AMPS] MORE ON PEP (TOM)

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Tom, mentioned in a response to my mathmatical attempt to prove that PEP
power is twice the average power.  In his response he made mention of the
term PEAK RMS value.  This is an ambiguous statement, and the two are not
related. PEAK is PEAK and RMS is just what it implies (root mean square), and
we simply can  not argue that PEAK =1.414(RMS) so you cannot say PEAK RMS.
 Also Tom mentioned that peaks can reach as high as 7 to 1.  If that was
true, then Tom has figured a way of creating energy. At least that what it
seems to me. If this were true, I would like to see the mathmatical
explaination on how the 7 fold power element is derived.  I think I made a
fairly backed up by math statement of  PEP versus average
power.  The power supplies in our amps can only provide a proportional value
of its rating versus RF power output rating, and certainly we know it is not
nearly a 1:1 transfer.  And if 7 fold power peaks were true how can we
determine how the power supply gave us this peak value on the input side?  Am
I missing something here? If so who can explain where I am misinformed.  Also
to change the subject, another gentlemen wanted us to get back on discussing
amps, so I will reply to some other postings regarding amps....One gentleman
asked where he can get parts specific to building up an amp with 811,s .
 Well, many parts that will work on 811 circuitry will work on circuitry
using much better and higher output tubes. My suggestion in that regard would
be dont waste parts on 811,s that can be used to build an amp using an 8877,
or 4-1000 or any other tube that will produce some "burn a hole" in the
frequency power!  I could never figure out why anybody would build an amp
(homebrew) using a single 3-500 (for example) when it would be just as easy
to add a second tube. Hey lets talk power here! RIGHT!  Our contest group has
built some mighty fine looking vhf amps using 4-250,s using some mighty fine
electronic parts, but unfortunetly they "dont walk the walk".  So we are now
building amps for 2,6,and 220 using 8877,s.  Since I just joined the group I
think thats great, but I would have started off with 8877,s or the like from
the get go....Live and Learn!  QRO is the way to GO. By the way, you probibly
guessed by now I like Rush Limbaugh. 73 LOU  

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