[AMPS] feedback sought: Ameritron AL-80
Radiodan W7RF
RFpower@radiodan.com
Sat, 30 Oct 1999 12:03:05 -0700
Hans, I'm sorry to say that you CANNOT get 850 or 890 watts out of a single
3-500 tube.
Rich sez so.................. (Rich did mention "at this anode supply
voltage")
Now, back to reality, 3500 VDC at 400 MA with 60% efficiency is 840 watts
out. This is at only 60% with 3500 VDC and at rated current. Easy to see how
guys can get 2000 watts from their pair in a HENRY 3K, 2K Classic X, etc.
Still the best value in legal limit amateur transmitting tubes today at
$250/pair.
No need to argue this, it happens every day.
73, Dan Magro W7RF, (President WARC 1999, member SCDXC, SCCC)
Manufacturers Rep & Distributor for HENRY RF Power Amplifiers.
RF Applications Power Measuring equipment, See the VFD & WinWatt!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-amps@contesting.com [mailto:owner-amps@contesting.com]On
> Behalf Of Hans Goldschmidt
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 6:14 AM
> To: measures; AMPS
> Subject: SV: [AMPS] feedback sought: Ameritron AL-80
>
>
>
> Hej all:
>
> I have in front of me an EIMAC data sheet of the 3-500Z ( 6-1-77) and HAM
> RADIO (1/77 ) - an article by W6SAI called "intermittent voice
> operation " (
> EIMAC publication AS 40 ) . The 3-500Z is said to deliver 890 watts of
> useful watts ( does this include output circuitry losses?? ) at 3500
> volts/400 mA and 40 dB 3rd order products. The 8873 ( inside same as 8875
> and 8874 ), mentioned in the HAM RADIO article, has a 350 mA maximum anode
> current. Still, EIMAC, in IVS service,allows 500 mA ( in short
> tune ups and
> SSB modulation peak current ) with still low 35 dB 3rd order distorsion
> products. The 8874 family has been been pushed to this limit in
> this IVS way
> in many amplifiers by HENRY, HEATHKIT, ALPHA with little problems
> in normal
> use. I also have seen many amplifiers using 8873 and 8874 after many years
> service still delivering almost full power with no harm and still almost
> normal distorsion products. Even when using PEP in cw service. My
> old HENRY
> using a pair of 8873s, nowadays used by a guy in cw contests, still works
> fine. It all depends on the operator, of course - the way he tunes up his
> amplifier and using it. RTTY, FM and long tune-ups is of course
> not possible
> in this IVS service unless you have a thick wallet,hi!
> Hej daa de Hans SM5KI
> ----------
> >Från: measures <measures@vcnet.com>
> >Till: "AMPS" <amps@contesting.com>
> >Ämne: Re: [AMPS] feedback sought: Ameritron AL-80
> >Datum: lör 30 okt 1999 07.27
> >
>
> >
> >>
> >>Your mileage may vary, but from my own experience:
> >>
> >>I have owned all three: AL-80, SB1000, and AL80B. They all showed >850
> >>watts carrier into non-radiating (HA!) loads when measured with
> Bird 43 and
> >>2500H slug. They worked very well and, in my not so humble opinion, were
> >>great bangs for the bux. .....
> >
> >Obtaining such power from a single 3-500Z at this anode supply voltage
> >requires driving the tube to more than its Eimac and Amperex rating
> >of400mA max.. The result is increased splatter in SSB service. The
> >designer of this amplifier (Mr. Tom Rauch) claimed that he had a letter
> >from Eimac that increased the anode current rating to more than 500mA.
> >He never produced the letter.
> >- cheers
> >>
> >>At 02:27 PM 10/29/1999 -0700, Joe wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>I have come across an original Ameritron AL-80
> >>>amplifier. This is not the AL-80A or AL-80B. Runs a
> >>>single 3-500Z.
> >>>
> >>
> >>73 from NS1Z, FN44rn
> >>
> >>John Wilcox
> >>871 Route 120
> >>Rumford, ME 04276-3836
> >>
> >>fon: 207-364-2246
> >>
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> >
> >- Rich..., 805.386.3734, www.vcnet.com/measures.
> >
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