Rich said: >The surprisingly unique things about the TS-830S are that: it is >exceedingly difficult to make dirty and the processor substantially >improves copyability under weak signal conditions. There are times when one has to wonder about technological 'progress' - or maybe I'm a bit too cynical. Some 'miracle' cures for every ill, such as ALC for example, do leave me a bit dubious. 73 Peter G3RZP