[Amps] 10 DB increase

[Radioal]

Again.... until anomalies are explained, they are just that.

That's why we have phrases such as "observable phenomena".

Imagine the plight of theoretical physicists, like Einstein, who posulated 
his thoughts but waited years until proof was found.  Until proven, they 
remained theories.  Your measurements are not in question - only the reason 
behind them.

Al - K8EUR
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "R. Measures" <r at somis.org>
To: "Radioal" <al.dolgosh at hamradio.org>
Cc: <amps at contesting.com>; "Ian White, G3SEK" <g3sek at ifwtech.co.uk>
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 5:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Amps] 10 DB increase


>
> On Feb 5, 2005, at 7:19 PM, Radioal wrote:
>
>> I am not questioning the fact that this was measured - only the basis for 
>> believing that what was measured had no other explanation than to 
>> disprove physical law.  I suggest that something else may be at work here 
>> to skew the measurements.  The challenge is to find the reason for it, 
>> not believe blindly in it.
>
>
> I was probably the last one to believe the measurements because I was not 
> on the Rx-end of things until after I sold the PB1 amplifier.  However, 
> the accuracy of such measurements is not in doubt since I used a 
> NBS-traceable HP 355 attenuator set to make them.  If blindly believing in 
> the NBS is stupid, then I plead guilty.  For what it's worth, most of the 
> free-3db encounters occurred on 40m and 80m in the early morning as the 
> D-layer was building.
> - cheerz
>>
>> Al - K8EUR
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "R. Measures" <r at somis.org>
>> To: "Radioal" <al.dolgosh at hamradio.org>
>> Cc: <amps at contesting.com>; "Ian White, G3SEK" <g3sek at ifwtech.co.uk>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 7:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Amps] 10 DB increase
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 5, 2005, at 1:51 PM, Radioal wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "R. Measures" <r at somis.org>
>>>> To: "Radioal" <al.dolgosh at hamradio.org>
>>>> Cc: <amps at contesting.com>; "Ian White, G3SEK" <g3sek at ifwtech.co.uk>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 10:11 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Amps] 10 DB increase
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ionosphere is not a parametric amplifier being pumped by solar 
>>>>>> energy - there are some weird theories floating around that have not 
>>>>>> been proven.
>>>>>
>>>>> So why did a 20db amplifier deliver 23db during certain conditions and 
>>>>> 20db at other times?
>>>>>>
>>>> Why assume something to be true that violates known physical laws?
>>>
>>> I assumed not, I measured.  This was what trusted friends had been 
>>> occasionally reporting for months.  I was only able to confirm what they 
>>> occasionally measured after I sold the amplifier.
>>>
>>>> The scientific assumption should be that it is an anomaly, and effort 
>>>> should be made to prove IT true rather than use the single fact to cast 
>>>> doubt on known reality.
>>>
>>> There were many measurements by others.  I was one of the last 
>>> measurers.
>>>
>>> Richard L. Measures, AG6K, 805.386.3734.  www.somis.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Richard L. Measures, AG6K, 805.386.3734.  www.somis.org
>