[Amps] Want to build first amp
Jan Erik Holm
sm2ekm at telia.com
Thu Jan 20 02:32:14 EST 2005
GS35b costs MUCH less then 8877´s or 3CX1200 tubes.
For a 160-6m amp I would try a GS35b any day.
73 Jim SM2EKM
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Steven J Fraasch wrote:
> Tomm:
>
> If it was your first, given your gain requirement (1500w out for 50w in
> or 14.8 dB !), I would recommend an 8877 in grounded grid. That tube
> should provide 13 - 15 dB of gain depending on tube and bias.
>
> There is an excellent 8877 design by W8ZR in the 21st ed of the "Radio
> Handbook" by Bill Orr, W6SAI )late 70's edition).
>
> I modified a Henry 3K over to an 8877 and was very pleased with the
> performance, especially the gain. One disadvantage of the 8877 is the
> relatively long warm-up, about 3 minutes. It has a reputation for a
> fragile grid, but is much more indestructible than is given credit (ask
> Rich, AG6K). I limited the current on mine with a trip circuit to less
> than 125 ma with a fairly slow time constant, on the order of 200 ms. I
> never lost a tube to grid failure, and used the 8877 for 16 years. I
> popped the grid current relay a few times due to mis-tuning, but never
> lost the tube. The Henry 4K, Alpha 77D and SX (pair), and Ameritron
> AL-1500 use the 8877.
>
> The other tube to consider is a 3cx1200, which is very rugged, has quick
> warm-up, but a little less gain, 11 - 13 dB. But, it is excellent as a
> grounded-grid choice. The Ameritron AL-1200 and Henry 3K Ultra use this
> tube.
>
> A pair of 4cx800s is worth considering, but the power supply will be more
> complicated adding a screen supply and commensurate protection. The QRO
> HF2500DX, Alphas 91 and 99, and ACOMs use this tube.
>
> Good luck with the project,
>
> 73, Steve K0SF
>
>
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 03:58:09 +0000 Tomm Aldridge <KD7QAE at ARRL.NET>
> writes:
>
>>Learned listmates,
>>
>>I want to embark on building my first HF tube amplifier. I would
>>like
>>to know what to start with, GG triode or Grid Driven Tetrode. I am
>>
>>looking for legal limit plus and will provide 230V for operation.
>>GS35b
>>tubes have caught my eye as have GU84b units but I am open to
>>suggestions. Oh, and this will be a deskside unit with a 19" rack
>>as
>>its basis and it will be expected to provide service from 160m to
>>6m.
>>Lots of great material out there on both flavors. I am looking for
>>
>>reliable operation, ruggedness (tolerance of my errors), 50 to 100W
>>
>>drive from my Kenwood to full output, simplicity and cost
>>effectiveness.
>>
>>I am an experienced EE with PSU and systems experience but have not
>>ever
>>tackled a tube amp below 10GHz (grin).
>>
>>Waiting for all teh great guidance.
>>
>>KD7QAE
>>
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