[Amps] transformers

m.ford k1ern at pioneerwireless.net
Mon Jul 17 22:51:47 EDT 2006


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From: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer at comcast.net>
To: "'m.ford'" <k1ern at pioneerwireless.net>
Cc: <amps at contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:37 PM
Subject: RE: [Amps] transformers


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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: m.ford [mailto:k1ern at pioneerwireless.net]
>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 12:47 PM
>> To: Gary Schafer
>> Cc: amps at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [Amps] transformers
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer at comcast.net>
>> To: "'m.ford'" <k1ern at pioneerwireless.net>; "'Tom W8JI'" <w8ji at w8ji.com>
>> Cc: <amps at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 11:16 AM
>> Subject: RE: [Amps] transformers
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>> >> As for PEP. I always felt it was a  marketing term. Never bothered with
>> it
>> >> and from the lengthy discussion here I have learned nothing new.
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>> > How else would you measure SSB power if not PEP?
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>> > 73
>> > Gary  K4FMX
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>> >
>> Hi Gary. Define the term "SSB power".
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>> Mike k1ern
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> That's my question Mike.
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> Rephrased; how would you rate the power output of an SSB transmitter? What
> units would you express the output power in?
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> 73
> Gary  K4FMX
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Watts come to mind.

 I think what you are trying to ask is how would I measure
the total power emitted from a transmitter that is modulated by single sideband voice.
Two ways come to mind. First I would use a spectrum analyzer and crank up the
persistance then measure the area under the curve. The rest is math.  But now you have to assume a bandwidth.

The second way would be to actually calculate and sum the area under each envelope of each tone
produced and do it in real time.  Oh, and while we are splitting hairs, don't forget the carrier
suppression. A lot of ssb I hear, isn't.

As I recall, the  advent of PEP brought us cross needle peak reading power meters. 
I think an artificial horizon indicator would  yield more useable results.

Mike  k1ern


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