[Amps] 813's.. Parasitic suppressor's

Carl km1h at jeremy.mv.com
Mon Apr 12 07:17:16 PDT 2010


What is the parasitic frequency of the 813?

Since they have good gain to at least 6M there is no reason to assume they 
are parasitic free.

Carl
KM1H


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fuqua, Bill L" <wlfuqu00 at uky.edu>
To: "Jim Thomson" <Jim.thom at telus.net>; <amps at contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Amps] 813's.. Parasitic suppressor's


> Many transmitters were built with out parasitic suppressors during WWII 
> using 813. I believe it is because the gain drops quickly above 30MHz and 
> there is less of an opportunity for the tube to oscillate at VHF 
> frequencies. Most glass "modern" glass power grid tubes are at least good 
> for full output up to
> 110 MHz so that they can be used in FM broadcast transmitters.
> 73
> Bill wa4lav
> ________________________________________
> From: amps-bounces at contesting.com [amps-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf 
> Of Jim Thomson [Jim.thom at telus.net]
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 6:35 AM
> To: amps at contesting.com
> Subject: [Amps] 813's.. Parasitic suppressor's
>
> Somebody asked a while back  abt the need for parasitic suppressors'  on a 
> GG- 813 amp.  A buddy
> had one blow up on his  2 x 813 amp last yr.. across  town.  he tossed 
> both the blown one.. and also
> the remaining one.  Amp runs just fine with NO suppressors.   Another 
> fellow  runs a 4 x 813  amp,
> again with no suppressors.   The tubes all balance out too..equal glow. 
> I'd try it with it with no suppressors
> 1st.... then if you do have stability problems.. then add them.
>
> If the screen and control grids are well grnded [via strap] to chassis... 
> you won't have stability problems.
> I have had  813's  with as high as 3 kv on em, no load... yrs ago, with no 
> stability problems,  but that amp
> did have suppressors in it   [2 x 813's in GG]  [80-10m].   That was back 
> in 1975.   It's  a pretty stable tube.
>
> Later... Jim   VE7RF
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