[Amps] I dont accept answers to why did Heath die?

[Roger]

Glen Zook wrote:
> There are some kits available, usually fairly simple, but there are a couple complex ones out there.
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> But, Heath's "bread and butter" was NOT amateur radio although, for decades, amateur radio equipment was very profitable.  Heath sold many thousands of test equipment, "hi-fi" equipment, and so forth.
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> Like it or not, amateur radio operators are a VERY small market when compared to consumer items.  Then "figure in" the actual number of operators who really would build kits if they were available.  Frankly, the economics are just not there!  The companies who are manufacturing kits today are generally doing so as a "side line" and are not showing a large profit.
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> Next, we live in a society today that is very prone to "suing" someone if things don't go right or if they are injured in any way.  Frankly, someone today building an amplifier kit with lethal voltages present is an open invitation to a very large lawsuit.  If liability insurance is available, the cost of such insurance is going to increase the cost of the kit substantially.  Back when Heath was in its "hey day" if someone got shocked they figured out why and tried not to get shocked again.  Today, if someone gets shocked, or worse, then the lawsuits start.  It seems if the lawsuits include the manufacturer of the device, the electric company that provides the electricity, the manufacturer of the wire that conducted the electricity, the mine owner who owned the mine from which the copper that was used in the wire came from, and anyone else who is remotely a party.
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> I definitely would like to see a "new" Heathkit type of company.  But, realistically, it just isn't going to happen.  At least on a scale that is even a fraction of what Heath produced.
>   

And contrary to what some believe the demand just isn't there.  Sure 
there are some, maybe even groups that would like to build some kits. 
Still...few of us want to build the same thing so the kit line would 
need to cover a variety of equipment. Just the entry level and legal 
limit amps means two entirely different setups.  Although, to be smart, 
use the same cabinet on all.  Use sub assemblies that can be assembled 
and then installed. A number of the commercial amp manufacturers do it 
that way.  Rectifier and capacitor banks. can be built as modules. Use 
the approach Alpha did with almost all of the metal work being flat 
panels. The cover which is a very simple U-shape with those broke edges 
costs $200 for a 76A. Any actual shaping adds considerable to the time 
and cost.

The ham who said he uses Aluminum angle for the corners and then fastens 
flat sheets to them has the right idea.   I'd not use angle any where 
near the size he does, but I'd use sufficient that when assembled it'd 
be rigid and strong. The more *stock* pre formed pieces such as angles 
and sheets the faster and neater it goes together.

However Heath did fold for the reasons given and it was a different 
world back then. As Glen says, you didn't have to worry (much) about 
getting sued for someone else's mistakes. Nor are people as interested 
in technology today as they were back then.  The numbers for those 
entering science and engineering college courses is down even though 
enrollment is up.  People want to be protected from virtually everything 
and unwilling to take responsibility for their own actions.

Three years ago I ended up in the hospital. The doc on call misdiagnosed 
the problem and sent me home. A couple hours later I was back. After 5 
days in the hospital I had to learn how to walk again. Many at that 
point would have thought their fortune had been made.

73

Roger (K8RI)
> Glen, K9STH
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> Website:  http://k9sth.com
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> --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Charles Harpole <k4vud at hotmail.com> wrote:
>  
> Sorry, but I do not accept the answers to why there are no more ham Heathkits, at least today.
>  
> Today, hams are hungry for a safe and sure building projects which 1. includes all all all the parts, 2. has good instructions in English, and 3 results in something one would want.  Elecraft may be partial proof of the consumer kit choices.
>  
> Power supplies and RF amplifiers could be the items a person would want and would be willing to build.  Maybe add SWR meters, Keyers, advanced speaker enclosures, remote touch pad for several rigs (K3 etc), and remote antenna switches?
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> I get a laugh at the building projects in QST over the last few years.... Who in the world actually builds these things?  It looks to me like ARRL wants to continue the idea, now a myth, that hams are overall very technically adept and cutting edge regardless of if the articles are actually built by anybody.  
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> To me, ham radio as a hobby today is much like the old car guys... Model T, etc.  Add old airplanes, or add your favorite.  These are old technology played with for fun and celebrated for what it is... a beautiful and wonderful part of history.  CW is the same thing, the practice of an elegant old communications method.  No one puts down a guy with a beautifully restored Model T Ford, and hams should NOT stand being put down just because our technology does not nearly equal what the military has, for example.  
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> We should accept and celebrate the kind of radio hams do.   The return of point-to-point wiring!  Hurray!  Bring back kits!
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