For all of you guys who called me or thought me a crazy inept owner of an 87a, I hope you read WC1M's very complete summary of the DESIGN FLAWS of that amp. But, yes, of course, my reporting problems must have just been the one guy who simply abused his gear. Yaaa Yaaa Yaaa, tongue out and spitting. 73, Charles Harpole k4vud at hotmail.com