[Amps] Beware of seller orzel-enterprises on eBay

[Jerry Kaidor]

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> On 11 September 2012 15:06, Carl <km1h at jeremy.mv.com> wrote:
>> Youre better off to have items like that sent to someone else in the USA
>> who
>> will make the effort to package properly. AND if it arrives there
>> damaged
>> UPS will pick it up and return to sender at no additional expense. I
>> dont
>> know if they will do that for international.
>>
>> Carl
>> KM1H
>
> Paypal insist items are sent to the registered address on the account,
> so I could not do that.
>
> Also, the damage is not apparent until the box is opened.
>
> I can't really involve someone else - that will just complicate matters.
>
> I think in future, I will find out the sizes of expensive items (easy
> with HP), and then work out a minimum possible size of a box. If the
> box arrives smaller, I'll refuse to take it, on the basis the package
> is too small for the size of the object.
>
> Dave, G8WRB
>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Kirkby"
>> <david.kirkby at onetel.net>
>> To: "amps" <amps at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 8:54 AM
>> Subject: [Amps] Beware of seller orzel-enterprises on eBay
>>
>>
>>> I hope the list admin does not mind me posting it, but I feel the
>>> information will be useful to readers of this group, as the eBay
>>> seller orzel-enterprises sells electronic items which might be
>>> purchased by hams.
>>>
>>> I would advise anyone to think twice before purchasing from him. This
>>> is how he shipped an HP vector network analyzer and S-parameter test
>>> set which I won on an auction for $2750. It was shipped from the USA
>>> to the UK.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/kirkby/damaged-VNA-by-inadequate-packaging/badly-shipped-8753A-and-85046A.jpg
>>>
>>> Note the box is far too small, and so obviously both units suffered
>>> damage. It was shipped by UPS, who state on their web pages that there
>>> needs to be at least 2" of packing around an item, and it must be at
>>> least 2" from the side of the box. (I can't quite see how you put 2"
>>> around it, and get it closer than 2" to the side of the box!)
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/resources/ship/packaging/guidelines/how_to2.html
>>>
>>> I don't know the full extent of the damage, but one handle is broken
>>> off, two are bent, and the unit will not power up.
>>>
>>> orzel-enterprises takes no reponsibility for this, and originally
>>> expected me to ship it back at my expense, and still pay the shipping
>>> charges from the USA. So I'd pay for two international shipments, as
>>> well as customs
>>> duties.
>>>
>>> After I pointed out Paypal would expect him to pay the original
>>> shipping to me, he has agreed to refund the USA -> UK shipping
>>> charges, but he still expects me to pay the UK -> USA shipping costs.
>>> I object to this, since it was his total stupidity the equipment got
>>> damaged. I don't see why I should pay for someone elses stupidity.
>>>
>>> Dave, G8WRB.
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