[Amps] Ham Tests, was Price per Watt Conversation

[Roger (K8RI)]

That too, but many of the obnoxious are old timers.
Being taught proper / acceptable social behavior and passing a test on 
it will never reform those who don't care.

73, Roger (K8RI)

On 4/26/2017 4:36 AM, Charles H wrote:
>
> I vote for more questions about proper on air operations, when to 
> call, etc., and ham law stuff.  Get the appliance op to where he is 
> bearable on air.
>
> Charly
>
>
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> *From:* Amps <amps-bounces at contesting.com> on behalf of Roger (K8RI) 
> <k8ri at rogerhalstead.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 26, 2017 8:28 AM
> *To:* amps at contesting.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Amps] Price per Watt Conversation
> Unfortunately, the exams are going the other way with very little
> required in the was of technology ans theory. They have dumbed down the
> exams to where, I think my Novice test had more theory than any of the
> present exams.  Now the ARRL thinks we need an even easier, entrance
> level class. Well, the East and West coasts are liberal havens.
>
> We don't need an easier class! As Manfred said, we need one that
> requires some technical knowledge. Ain't gonna happen in today's social
> climate.
>
> As for ALC, I only know of one manufacturer that has the output power
> controlled by ALC with the overshoot.
>
> My transceiver runs 200 out and backed off to drive a high gain tetrode
> has no overshoot. I've received a lot of compliments on the signal 
> quality.
>
> Referring to the clean commercial rigs and the ham rigs that let the
> user tailor the signal into pure trash.  There seems to be a number of
> hams that like to add 100 Hz on the bottom of the audio for a more
> "natural" sound, then complain when calling stations are off their
> frequency by 100 Hz. I ran an experiment with one such station with him
> randomly adding and removing the 100 Hz. Even then, he couldn't
> understand why I was moving 100 Hz with each change and this was an old
> timer.
>
> I like to look inside, but touch nothing. Many of today's rigs require
> some sophisticated equipment to properly align.  They even require a set
> sequence for setting up the audio, that if not followed in order, can
> leave the transmitted signal really bad. The companies didn't do ham
> radio any favors by making so many parameters accessible to the user!
> I've worked with digital for years and know enough that I realize, there
> is no way I can repair one of the top end rigs with the possible
> exception of the displays, or possibly final module.
>
> 73
>
> Roger (K8RI)
>
>
> On 4/25/2017 4:37 PM, Manfred Mornhinweg wrote:
> >
> > Some hams go another step further, take the cover off their radios and
> > defeat the ALC. That goes a good way toward deflecting the needles
> > even further. And toward splattering all over the band and then some,
> > of course.
> >
> > Hams should be asked to pass a test, both about technical knowledge
> > and mental sanity, before being allowed to operate radios that have
> > external controls for mic gain and compression level. Those who
> > haven't passed that test should only operate radios that don't have
> > these controls, and only operate them with the stock mikes. And the
> > covers of their radios should be welded shut, just in case! :-)
> >
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > just a small correction:
> >
> > > The PA must be over driven in order to produce any ALC!
> >
> > That depends on how it's implemented. An ALC that requires overdriving
> > is a badly designed ALC. In solid state transceivers the ALC signal is
> > usually derived from a comparator that starts giving an output when
> > either the power output reaches a certain level, or the reflected
> > power does so. If this comparator is properly adjusted so that it
> > starts giving an output a little before the PA is overdriven, then the
> > ALC prevents overdriving. Of course if a monkey with a screwdriver
> > fiddles with that internal adjustment and sets it above the overload
> > level, the ALC can no longer do its job of preventing overdrive.
>
>
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