[Amps] LDMOS availability

Mon Jun 5 19:12:30 EDT 2017

Actually you do NOT have your crystal ball to predict the future so your 
statement is NOT based in fact, only an opinion. I prefer to go with facts, 
so hear we go.

FACT... Because we can not see into the future, we only have history to look 
at.

FACT... History has shown us that RF power devices have NOT survived 15 
years of manufacture very well... IN FACT... I challenge you to show me the 
facts. Show me a solid state RF transistor in that power class (RF 1400 
watts out) that has been in production for 15 years and is still in 
production today. I am open minded and would love to see your report.

FACT... I noticed that you did not mention if they agree to the $100k 
Guarantee. Why is that important, see below.

FACT... If they are sure that they will keep production going until the year 
2032 (15 years), then that guarantee should BE NO PROBLEM for them. Talk is 
cheep

FACT... If you feel that is an unfair request, then that tells us that (Deep 
down) you do not believe them either. Please do not tell me that you DO have 
a crystal ball.

FACT... Many high power tubes (8877 and 3-500) do have a rich 40+ year 
history with no end in sight.

FACT... I have purchased the BLF188 because I CAN afford both the cost and 
the risk. However people who can not afford the cost and risk may wish to 
take this into consideration.

FACT... I have been in the RF repair industry since 1971 and have seen and 
faced this issue happen over and over again. How long have you been in it???

73, Bruce, W8HW
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-----Original Message----- 
From: Per Molund
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 14:55
To: w8hw at comcast.net ; amps at contesting.com ; Tom Thompson
Subject: Re: [Amps] LDMOS availability

Actually they have put it in writing, on the data sheet (although
prelimenary at the moment) they state 'Included in NXP product
longevity program with assured supply for a minimum of 15 years after
launch' which I see as a quite firm commitment. Or do You have an
example that NXP has not fullfilled their 'longevity program'
commitment for some components?

73 de LA9XKA - Per

At 19:08 05.06.2017, w8hw at comcast.net wrote:
>Talk is cheep. Ask them if they will put that in writing? Also ask if they 
>will put a penalty clause stating they will give you a $100k payment should 
>they fail the 15 year test. After all if it was true, they should have no 
>problems with that. On the other hand if they baulk , that tells you that 
>they are just talk with no truth. Additionally, Please be honest... If you 
>are reluctant to ask them for that guarantee, that shows that you KNOW they 
>are just talk. Someone or Anyone let me know if anyone gets that guarantee.
>
>Remember company plans do change with new management or when they get a bad 
>P&L. This is especially true if they are listed on any exchange such as 
>NASDAQ. Like the dip in early 2016 (NXPI at $65) and now back on a good 
>clime this year ($109.00) now. companies tend to make strong claims on the 
>peek and pull claims back claims on the stock dip. Often they have no 
>choice. The device market history is the only good indicator. Solid State 
>RF power devices still have a very poor history. Translation... the market 
>speaks with authority, companies just talk.
>
>I have a solid state amp (dual BLF188) homebrew amp, and have two (2) tube 
>amps one of which is AL-1500 with 8877 tube. I love them all, but 
>understand the risk of SS replacement as I have been in broadcasting or the 
>RF repair business since 1971 and a Ham since 1962. I have lived through 
>everything that I have said above.
>
>73, Bruce, W8HW
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>-----Original Message----- From: Tom Thompson
>Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 11:18
>To: amps at contesting.com
>Subject: [Amps] LDMOS availability
>
>I recently took part in a webinar on the new, 1800 watt, 65 volt, LDMOS
>transistors made by NXP.  It is the MRFX1K80, and NXP plans to produce
>it for at least 15 years.
>
>Tom   W0IVJ
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