[CCF] SAC rules...

[jukka.klemola at nokia.com]

Ei ole Jan sellainen kiho.

NRAU kokous on.
Se on päättänyt että kilpamanagerien pitää olla yksimielisiä.

Nyt ei olla ja se siitä.

Jan on perin kyllästynyt SAC vatvomiseen ja sain juuri tietää
että Ruotsissa on menossa SAC:n alasajo SSA tiimoilta.

Oikeastaan SSA ei voi sellaista päätöstä tehdä koska se
on NRAU kokouksen päätöstä vastaan.


Pari-kolme vuotta seuraavaan NRAU kokoukseen.
Se on se sama kokous joka ei ollut Borgå Innissä.

Siihen on liian pitkä aika.


Olen ehdottanut SRAL työvaliokunnalle keskustelua
SSA viimeaikaisista valinnoista NRAU kattavien asioiden
suhteen.


Ham Spirit Ei Sammua Saa !


73,
Jukka

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ccf-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:ccf-bounces at contesting.com]On
> Behalf Of ext Esa Korhonen
> Sent: 25 May, 2004 13:09
> To: CCF
> Subject: RE: [CCF] SAC rules...
> 
> 
> Jaa-ha? Jan on siis niiiiiin iso kiho että voi yksin päättää 
> mitä tehdään ja
> mitä ei. Vau! Ihan kateeksi käy.
> 
> Ehdotan että teemme CCF:n piirissä hyvin perustellun 
> esityksen miksi SAC:ta
> kannattaa edelleen kehittää, ja esityksen tekee CCF:n 
> puheenjohtaja CCF:n
> nimissä, ei SRAL:n nimissä.
> 
> En jaksa uskoa että Janin mielipide edustaa valtaosaa scandinavian
> kontestereista. Se että 'näin on aina ollut' ei ole mikään peruste.
> 
> 73, Esa
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ccf-bounces at contesting.com 
> [mailto:ccf-bounces at contesting.com] On
> Behalf Of jukka.klemola at nokia.com
> Sent: 25. toukokuuta 2004 10:33
> To: ccf at contesting.com
> Subject: [CCF] FW: SAC rules...
> 
> 
> Vastaus tulikin äkkiä.
> 
> Se siitä minun osaltani.
> SRAL tuskin haluaa tästä konfrontaatiota nyt kun meillä
> on kotimaassakin vielä "hieman" tekemistä.
> 
> SAC olkoon SAC on vastaus toistaiseksi.
> 
> Haluan odottaa että joku toinen pohjoismaa tekee aloitteen. 
> Saavat sitten
> täyden tuen.
> 
> 
> 73,
> jukka
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ext Jan-Eric Rehn..
> > Sent: 25 May, 2004 01:42
> > To: ...
> > Subject: Re: SAC rules...
> ..
> > >Gents,
> > >Finns insist I suggest a SAC rule discussion once again.
> > >
> > >Main topic seems to be the combination of SAC to one weekend mixed 
> > >mode contest.
> > >
> > >
> > >What do you think; how to get that under way?
> > >
> > >
> > >73,
> > >Jukka OH6LI
> > 
> > 
> > Hello fellow contest managers!
> > 
> > Personally I don't like that idea and I don't like to pick up
> > this endless 
> > discussion once again. We have talked about this several 
> > times the last 
> > years and also after we changed the duration from 27 to 24 
> > hours in 1999. 
> > We even voted about this a couple of years ago on the 
> > reflectors, at least 
> > in Sweden and Finland, and the answer was to keep both 
> > contests as they were.
> > 
> > The question is - what's wrong with the contest(s)?
> > As I see it - nothing...
> > Why fix something, if it isn't broken?
> > 
> > I know very well that the CQ WW RTTY DX Contest is going the
> > last weekend 
> > in September and that is the main reason a few contesters 
> > wants to move SAC 
> > SSB to another weekend or combine the two contests (SAC CW 
> > and SAC SSB) to 
> > one mixed contest.
> > 
> > This year SAC will be arranged for the 46th time!
> > And - for what I know - SAC has been arranged the 3rd and 4th
> > weekends in 
> > September all those years. I can be wrong - I haven't studied 
> > the rules and 
> > dates from the early years. Shall we give those weekends up 
> > due to the fact 
> > that computers and sound cards will be found in more and more 
> > ham shacks 
> > and we are seeing this small "RTTY boom" just now? What year 
> > did this RTTY 
> > contest start? Maybe they should move to another weekend??? :-)
> > 
> > I like very much to work RTTY myself, but if I have a choice
> > between a CW, 
> > SSB and a RTTY contest, I definitely choose CW or SSB, and 
> > especially if it 
> > is SAC. If I would like to work a RTTY contest I can work 
> > something else 
> > than the CQ sponsored one. There are 3 or 4 every month 
> > during the year, 
> > but only two SAC.
> > 
> > If I like I can work both contests anyway. I can work SAC SSB
> > full time all 
> > 24 hours and give the RTTY a few of the other 24, as the RTTY 
> > contest is 48 
> > hours.
> > 
> > How many participants do SAC loose because of the RTTY
> > contest? Hard to say 
> > - but my guess is maybe 10 Scandinavian stations and maybe 20-30 
> > Non-Scandinavians. That's my very rough guess... Most 
> > SSB-guys around the 
> > world don't participate in RTTY contests.
> > 
> > So, can we leave it as it is for now, please...
> > 
> > 1999 we went from 27 hours to 24 and now a few ones would
> > like to do one 
> > contest out of two... What's the next step? Is this the 
> > beginning of the 
> > end for SAC?
> > 
> > 73 de Jan
> > 
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