[CCF] [TOEC] The future for Scandinavian Cup in SAC Contest?

Tomi Ylinen tomi.ylinen at luukku.com
Mon Nov 8 00:15:47 PST 2010

Well, to my opinion we do not need to do anything. Scandinavian Cup can be as it is. We can congratulate you swedes that you beat us finns. Maybe your good activity is based on agitation to win the Cup. That way the Cup works. But it does not work for any other countries but SM and OH. There is not enough activity or stations in other countries.

I don't see that as a problem. Cup is more or less statistical. Personally OH winning the Cup does not give any kicks, on the other hand loosing it does not hurt (sorry boys:-).

To me it has always been the personal race. It's like in F1 the Constructor's championships: who cares. What counts is the one to win driver's championship. With this I'm not comparing myself to F1-drivers:-)

SAC gives us the chance to be on the right end of pile ups. That is the main goal of the event. 

Tomi OH6EI

Mats Strandberg kirjoitti 07.11.2010 kello 21:45:
> Hello all Scandinavian/Nordic contesters!
> A few days remain until the logs for SAC SSB 2010 has to be submitted.
> We can however already now see that Finland has an exceptionally
>  high points
> per log advantage. This proves that OH is more endurant in SAC than any
> other Scandinavian country. It also (most likely) proves that there
>  is more
> aluminium at a higher height in the Finnish locations compared to other
> Scandinavian countries.
> Congratulations to Finland for excellent score with considerably fewer
> operators!  (see below)
> Sweden is the OVERALL winner for the second year in row thanks to an
> excellent amount of logs (more than half of the logs totally are
>  Swedish).
> Also the strong average point per log in the CW section made Sweden a
> successful country already when the CW section was over.
> The reason for this email is to open the discussion how we can
>  improve SAC
> in the eyes of Non-Scandinavian participants - and also to inspire other
> countries than Sweden and Finland to have a higher participation in SAC.
> Sweden, Finland (with Aland and Market Reef) represent not less than
>  90% of
> all logs in SAC. This is NOT a good sign that participation from all
> Scandinavian countries is more or less equal or representative to
>  the amount
> of hams in each country.
> How can we stimulate our Norwegian and Danish friends to be better
>  active in
> SAC???
> Iceland has on average quite a good participation in SAC, but 7 and 5
> million points in SAC from Norway and Denmark seems at least to me
>  as a sign
> of non-sufficient promotion for contesting in those countries.
> The Scandinavian Cup was initiated to be a stimulator for national
> competition within the Scandinavian/Nordic countries, but what we
>  have seen
> the past years is a development where SM and OH is fighting for the
>  1st and
> 2nd place, and where LA is always at a safe third place, and where OZ is
> more or less fighting for the 4th place with OH0 (despite the fact that
> Aland Islands has only 1/5 th (20 %) if the logs compared to OZ...
> This is not a satisfactory situation according to my personal opinion.
> Shall we remove the Scandinavian Cup from the SAC?  Shall we create a
> "Finnkampen" concept where only SM and OH is competing (like in
>  Athletics) -
> or shall we try to boost the activity from ALL NORDIC/SCANDINAVIAN
>  countries
> the next year (SAC 2011) ???
> Norway and Denmark in this case need to make a FULL EFFORT in
>  changing the
> situation and by encouraging new hams to the field of contesting. I
>  think
> that active contesters in both Norway and Denmark agree that the
>  potential
> for improvement is huge...
> We are ready to help with ideas and suggestions. The Swedish
>  improvement is
> not based on huge investment in aluminium and steel, but rather a
>  logical
> development of raised promotion for contesting as such.
> Please have a look at www.hfcup.se and see that close to 300 Swedish
> contesters are active in International contests on a regular basis. Such
> similar national contests could also stimulate the participation in
>  contests
> from all other Scandinavian counties. It is only to "copy and paste" our
> idea.  Steal with pride is another way to express it...
> If we can increase the total amount of Scandinavian  logs in SAC
>  from the
> present 544 logs to, let us say 750 logs, the interest for SAC will
>  increase
> accordingly... This does not seem like an impossible figure, BUT it
>  requires
> active promotion from the HF Contest Managers in all the countries.
> 73 de R3/SM6LRR, Mats
> SAC 2010 Scandinavian Cup (CW & SSB)
> - Claimed Score
>   *Nr* *Country* *Number of logs* *Score* 1 Sweden 287 44.310.431 2
>  Finland
> 136 36.013.350 3 Norway 66 7.229.178 4 Denmark 35 4.911.727 5 Aland
>  Islands
> 8 4.543.473 6 Iceland 6 1.611.586 7 Faroe Islands 3 543.896 8
>  Greenland 1
> 507.964 9 Svalbard 1 332.785 10 Market Reef 1 13.615
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