[CCF] CCF Digest, Vol 98, Issue 8

veikko.kuumola at kolumbus.fi veikko.kuumola at kolumbus.fi
Fri Feb 11 12:22:19 PST 2011


Why people (read  hams) are complaining nowerdays about simple things/ rules like kids.

No problem to indicate the frequency of each QSO. I always immediately send the qso data after contest.

Rules are rules. If you do not like them, do not participate this activiity/hobbby.

Veikko -3LB

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>    1. Russian DX Contest 2011 - Rules (Mats Strandberg)
>    2. Re: [TOEC] Russian DX Contest 2011 - Rules (Jan Erik Holm)
>    3. Re: [TOEC] Russian DX Contest 2011 - Rules (Mats Strandberg)
>    4. Re: [TOEC] Russian DX Contest 2011 - Rules (Jan Erik Holm)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 11:41:33 +0300
> From: Mats Strandberg <sm6lrr at gmail.com>
> Subject: [CCF] Russian DX Contest 2011 - Rules
> To: TOEC <TOEC at contesting.com>, CCF Postituslista
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> 	lacc at radiosporting.info, "Yngvi (TF3Y)" <yngvih at gmail.com>
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> Hello!
> 
> High time to prepare for the 18th edition of the Russian DX Contest, taking
> place on March 19th-20th (1200-1200 UTC).
> 
> Some new rules have been added - http://www.rdxc.org/asp/pages/rulesg.asp
> 
> Nordic participation increased significantly last year and it would be nice
> to continue in the same direction this year.
> 
> 73 de R3/SM6LRR, Mats
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:45:16 +0100
> From: Jan Erik Holm <sm2ekm at telia.com>
> Subject: Re: [CCF] [TOEC] Russian DX Contest 2011 - Rules
> To: Mats Strandberg <sm6lrr at gmail.com>
> Cc: CCF Postituslista <ccf at contesting.com>, TOEC <TOEC at contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <4D55052C.1020007 at telia.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> Not that I planed to take part and if I would have I don?t know
> if I would make top 3 however these rule changes will completely
> rule me out.
> 
> It?s a free choice and this one is not worth the cost of electricity
> any more.
> 
> Jim SM2EKM
> ................
> 11.11 High scores pretending to be in the top 3 list of any contest 
> category must indicate exact frequency of every QSO made (CAT system use).
> 
> 11.11.1 An applicant will not be able to claim a spot in the "Top 3" 
> places of any category unless exact frequency of every QSO made is 
> indicated.
> 
> 12.2 An applicant aiming for a spot in the "Top 3" list of any contest 
> category (paragraph 3, 3.3) must submit his logs within 36 hours after 
> the end of the contest.
> 
> 12.2.1 An applicant will be denied a spot in the "Top 3" of any category 
> if his log was submitted later than 36 hours after the end of the contest.
> 
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2011-02-11 09:41, Mats Strandberg wrote:
> > Hello!
> >
> > High time to prepare for the 18th edition of the Russian DX Contest, taking
> > place on March 19th-20th (1200-1200 UTC).
> >
> > Some new rules have been added - http://www.rdxc.org/asp/pages/rulesg.asp
> >
> > Nordic participation increased significantly last year and it would be nice
> > to continue in the same direction this year.
> >
> > 73 de R3/SM6LRR, Mats
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 13:13:55 +0300
> From: Mats Strandberg <sm6lrr at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [CCF] [TOEC] Russian DX Contest 2011 - Rules
> To: Jan Erik Holm <sm2ekm at telia.com>
> Cc: CCF Postituslista <ccf at contesting.com>, TOEC <TOEC at contesting.com>
> Message-ID:
> 	<AANLkTimUJburSreHiAbjYomxacO4PTTSevd5tBbSUoYW at mail.gmail.com>
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> 
> Hello Janne!
> 
> I kind of agree with you that some of those changes are perhaps an
> overkill...
> 
> My info was just meant to be a reminder of a nice contest - not a support
> for any new rules :)
> 
> There is also an issue regarding LP and QRP stations that I found a little
> "foggy"...  Could not really figure out why just those categories should
> start mentioning coax type, coax length, height above Sea Level of the QTH
> etc...    ASL elevation according to my understanding is not telling
> anything at all...   A 20 meter high antenna 5 meters from the Indian Ocean
> (20 meters ASL) can work a hundred times better than the same type of
> antenna, 4 meters above ground level) at 5000 meter ASL in a deep valley of
> Himalaya, surrounded by 3000 meter higher peaks...
> 
> I informed my Russian colleagues about those things - we will see if any
> reactions come ;)
> 
> 73 de LRR
> 
> 
> 
> 2011/2/11 Jan Erik Holm <sm2ekm at telia.com>
> 
> > Not that I planed to take part and if I would have I don? know
> > if I would make top 3 however these rule changes will completely
> > rule me out.
> >
> > It? a free choice and this one is not worth the cost of electricity
> > any more.
> >
> > Jim SM2EKM
> > ................
> > 11.11 High scores pretending to be in the top 3 list of any contest
> > category must indicate exact frequency of every QSO made (CAT system use).
> >
> > 11.11.1 An applicant will not be able to claim a spot in the "Top 3" places
> > of any category unless exact frequency of every QSO made is indicated.
> >
> > 12.2 An applicant aiming for a spot in the "Top 3" list of any contest
> > category (paragraph 3, 3.3) must submit his logs within 36 hours after the
> > end of the contest.
> >
> > 12.2.1 An applicant will be denied a spot in the "Top 3" of any category if
> > his log was submitted later than 36 hours after the end of the contest.
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > 2011-02-11 09:41, Mats Strandberg wrote:
> >
> >> Hello!
> >>
> >> High time to prepare for the 18th edition of the Russian DX Contest,
> >> taking
> >> place on March 19th-20th (1200-1200 UTC).
> >>
> >> Some new rules have been added - http://www.rdxc.org/asp/pages/rulesg.asp
> >>
> >> Nordic participation increased significantly last year and it would be
> >> nice
> >> to continue in the same direction this year.
> >>
> >> 73 de R3/SM6LRR, Mats
> >>
> >
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 11:26:25 +0100
> From: Jan Erik Holm <sm2ekm at telia.com>
> Subject: Re: [CCF] [TOEC] Russian DX Contest 2011 - Rules
> To: Mats Strandberg <sm6lrr at gmail.com>
> Cc: CCF Postituslista <ccf at contesting.com>, TOEC <TOEC at contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <4D550ED1.9020306 at telia.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> 
> Mats,
> 
> Yes of course no problem, you are just the messenger I do understand
> that.
> Well yes I saw the QRP rules also, I could speculate why they want
> those changes but I will not do that.
> In any case, 36 hours is all the same, 1 hour 36 or whatever isn?t
> really important but to force people using "CAT systems" that is too
> much.
> Now, they can make the rules any way they want and there is still
> going to be enough people participating however in this case for
> me this is too much and too silly. I park my radio and rest my case.
> 
> I my opinion there are things in radio contesting that are far more
> important however that would be a different subject.
> 
> Jim SM2EKM
> -----------------------
> On 2011-02-11 11:13, Mats Strandberg wrote:
> > Hello Janne!
> > I kind of agree with you that some of those changes are perhaps an
> > overkill...
> > My info was just meant to be a reminder of a nice contest - not a
> > support for any new rules :)
> > There is also an issue regarding LP and QRP stations that I found a
> > little "foggy"...  Could not really figure out why just those categories
> > should start mentioning coax type, coax length, height above Sea Level
> > of the QTH etc...    ASL elevation according to my understanding is not
> > telling anything at all...   A 20 meter high antenna 5 meters from the
> > Indian Ocean (20 meters ASL) can work a hundred times better than the
> > same type of antenna, 4 meters above ground level) at 5000 meter ASL in
> > a deep valley of Himalaya, surrounded by 3000 meter higher peaks...
> > I informed my Russian colleagues about those things - we will see if any
> > reactions come ;)
> > 73 de LRR
> >
> >
> > 2011/2/11 Jan Erik Holm <sm2ekm at telia.com <mailto:sm2ekm at telia.com>>
> >
> >     Not that I planed to take part and if I would have I don? know
> >     if I would make top 3 however these rule changes will completely
> >     rule me out.
> >
> >     It? a free choice and this one is not worth the cost of electricity
> >     any more.
> >
> >     Jim SM2EKM
> >     ................
> >     11.11 High scores pretending to be in the top 3 list of any contest
> >     category must indicate exact frequency of every QSO made (CAT system
> >     use).
> >
> >     11.11.1 An applicant will not be able to claim a spot in the "Top 3"
> >     places of any category unless exact frequency of every QSO made is
> >     indicated.
> >
> >     12.2 An applicant aiming for a spot in the "Top 3" list of any
> >     contest category (paragraph 3, 3.3) must submit his logs within 36
> >     hours after the end of the contest.
> >
> >     12.2.1 An applicant will be denied a spot in the "Top 3" of any
> >     category if his log was submitted later than 36 hours after the end
> >     of the contest.
> >
> >
> >     -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >     2011-02-11 09:41, Mats Strandberg wrote:
> >
> >         Hello!
> >
> >         High time to prepare for the 18th edition of the Russian DX
> >         Contest, taking
> >         place on March 19th-20th (1200-1200 UTC).
> >
> >         Some new rules have been added -
> >         http://www.rdxc.org/asp/pages/rulesg.asp
> >
> >         Nordic participation increased significantly last year and it
> >         would be nice
> >         to continue in the same direction this year.
> >
> >         73 de R3/SM6LRR, Mats
> >
> >
> 
> 
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